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Dapuma's Avatar Dapuma 10:15 AM 01-31-2013
Hello

I am helping my friend out with a new system, and he has a $5k total budget

I told him to put $4k into speaker s and the rest into a reciever so he will need to use an all purpose 7.1 avr - I can probably convince him to take 5.1 for right now and add two speakers later

Right now I am trying to find him either used VSA (Von Schweikert) or what else can we look at in this price range, it has been awhile since I have looked at anything

I also liked the Usher look, not sure what they are makign anymore

Thanks

Dapuma's Avatar Dapuma 11:24 PM 01-31-2013
Ascend seems like it has a good rep and would fit my friends budget

I was thinking about the Sierra 1's for him along with the matched center channel and tweeter upgrades in each unit

then doing the CMB 170's x4 for the rears and the 7.1 channel as well

For the sub I was thinking about this one for him: RYTHMIK D15 SE 15" DOWN-FIRING SERVO SUB... - I like the downfiring sub best, but not sure if that is best with these subs

All that along with mounting brackets and stands will keep him right under $4k which leaves him some room for an AVR

Is there anything else that is going to compare to these at that price point?
Newbie01's Avatar Newbie01 11:48 PM 01-31-2013
There is a TON out there at that price point. Since you are looking at ID I will list those first.


Speakers

Tekton Pendragon (Just won tons of awards)
Axiom Home Theater
Sulk Song Towers (more music than HT though...at least my 2 cents)
EMP
SVS Tower Speakers

Subs:

SVS
PSA (Power Sound Audio)
HSU Research

For less money...but still great sound:
HTD Level 3
HSU Bookshelf are highly rated


Since you specifically are aiming for HT:

Klipsch Referance and Paradigm Studio cant be ignored at all

There are of corse 100's more I didn't mention because I didn't like them or don't know them... B&W, KEF, Focal, Energy, ML


These are just the ones I am looking at in my search... I am sure there are tons of others out there I have not mentioned.
Dapuma's Avatar Dapuma 11:48 PM 01-31-2013
Thought of the Usher x series or the cp-6311 always liked the way they looked but never heard them
AcuDefTechGuy 08:54 AM 02-01-2013
I would get dual Funk 18.0 unpowered subs for $2K x 2 = $4K & NHT Absolute Zero for $200 x 5 = $1K, total $5K, plus a Crown XLS2000 for $500 to power the dual Funk subs.
Dapuma's Avatar Dapuma 03:55 PM 02-01-2013
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I would get dual Funk 18.0 unpowered subs for $2K x 2 = $4K & NHT Absolute Zero for $200 x 5 = $1K, total $5K, plus a Crown XLS2000 for $500 to power the dual Funk subs.

The entire budget has to be 5k or less, including an AVR

spending 80% of the budget on subwoofers is not an option, one subwoofer is sufficent
Ryder125's Avatar Ryder125 04:19 PM 02-01-2013
I have the Sierra-1 NrT as my LCR and their all kinds of awesomeness, you really can't go wrong with those, I have zero complains about them.
bitterwaste's Avatar bitterwaste 05:03 PM 02-01-2013
here is my suggestion unless he is willing to go to a 3.1 system is
EMP tek
E55ti towers 795.00
E55Wi 500x 2 pairs
E56Ci 450.00
EMP tek total = 2245.00
SVS sound
PB12-PLUS 1400.00
SVS total = 1400.00
Receiver
Denon
AVR-3313CI 1200.00
Denon total = 1200.00
Grand Total
4845.00
Give you a little left over to start saving for a oppo bdp-103 to top the system off.

If he can go for a 3.1 system start looking at Kef R series, and or Salk song towers with RAAL tweeters and a good sub.
Newbie01's Avatar Newbie01 06:33 PM 02-01-2013
Not to say SVS isn't good but I would probably look at HSU for his budget and needs.

Can't coment on the EMP...have not heard them...would love to if anyone in the Philly Burbs wants to invite me over.

I did hear the Sonus Faber Vener today... I honestly can say they were awesome and fit within your budget. As with all things related to sound ...go listen and decided for yourself.

In addition, being from an Italian brand...they should pass the wife test. Just google image them.
MysticalJet's Avatar MysticalJet 06:38 PM 02-01-2013
I'd recommend Aperion as well. Great bang for the buck!
shadyJ's Avatar shadyJ 06:47 PM 02-01-2013
How big is your friends room? If it is small, one Rythmik D15se might be sufficient. In a medium sized room, it might sound ok if he only listens at modest volumes, but in a large room forget it. Go with the Rythmik FV15HP. If it was me, even in a medium sized or small room I would go with two D15se subs. It'll sound nice but just one won't be an output monster. In a large room you might also look at a Hsu VTF15h dual drive. As for speakers, that also depends on room size and how loud your friend typically listens to stuff. If your friend likes to rock out in a large room, you will want some high sensitivity speakers. However, you can get away with smaller bookshelf speakers in a small room.
Newbie01's Avatar Newbie01 07:44 PM 02-01-2013
Don't think a FV15HP is in the budget...

From my research..and take it from what is worth... (This is ONLY for HT comparison....this changes if you are looking at music)

500-900 best bang is HSU
900-1400 throw up between PSA and Rythmik (I would give the slight nod to Rythmik but really 50/50 even race again..IMO)

SVS is awesome but seem to be about 15% more than HSU, PSA and Rythmik when you try to compare apples to apples (which is not really apples to apples but fairly close)

SVS does have some unique offerings though and there is absolutely nothing against SVS... In f
Dapuma's Avatar Dapuma 12:40 AM 02-02-2013
The system will be dual use, for watching tv and music, I'll have to have him send me the measurements of the room would say med sized room, not worried about rocking out the entire house just the soundstage that will be set up, it is an open floor plan though

The sonus look sharp, the 2.5 are $2500? What do the center and rears run...seems like that will be over budget, unless the bookshelf are what your talking about
kemetblk's Avatar kemetblk 02:08 AM 02-02-2013
You could go complete Polk RTi setup. 2 x RTiA9's, CSiA6, 2 x FXiA6 = $2270 for cherry or $2050 for black. Add an Emotiva XPA-5 ($900) and an UMC-2 ($600). Finish with an SVS PB12-Plus for $1400. Total $4950 ($5170 for cherry).

Another option would be Aperion Versus Forte towers, center and bookshelves for $2300, plus the same Emotiva setup and a Hsu VTF-15H at $1000. Total is $4800.

Of course you could save money by going with a standard AVR like a Marantz SR6007 ($1200), H/K AVR3600/3650 ($1000), Denon AVR-3313 ($1200) or a Pioneer Elite or Onkyo model in the $800-$1200 range.
shadyJ's Avatar shadyJ 02:10 AM 02-02-2013
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The system will be dual use, for watching tv and music, I'll have to have him send me the measurements of the room would say med sized room, not worried about rocking out the entire house just the soundstage that will be set up, it is an open floor plan though

Open floor plan? I would urge you to go for a dual sub setup in that case, seriously. This isn't about rocking the house, its about having the bass heard evenly over all your listening positions and not wonky where it is too strong at one spot and near silent in another. You won't want weak subs either. I would be looking at dual Rythmik FV15s, dual Hsu VTF15h subs, or dual PSA XS30s. Do not place the subs right next to each other, use guidelines for multisub placement. For this setup, go for bookshelf speakers, you won't need the bass extension of tower speakers at all in a multisub setup. For speakers in this price range, I would be looking at KEF Q300s, Ascend Sierras, or NHT Classic Threes, each with their matching center speakers. Don't spend as much on the surrounds as the front stage. For surrounds, I would be looking at HTD Level Three bookshelf speakers, Ascend CBM170s, Hsu Research HB-1 mk2s, Infinity Primus p163s and bookshelf speakers along those lines.
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