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Hello All,

I am looking for help in selecting an decent speaker system that will sound good but more importantly will last an while. We have an room which is around 15ftx15ft.

I have an Onkyo TXNR609 and Energy RC Micro 5.1 speaker system. I bought both of them in Nov'2011. They lasted well for an year after which the sound was very distorted.

I showed my onkyo and speakers to an AV repair guy. We saw that 1 of the energy speaker died and all other 4 has distorted voices. I still do not understand why the speakers had problems. My A/V speaker guy says that the speakers might not have been able to handle the power or my amp might have been used too loud.

Budget? upto 400
Floor vs bookshelves? satellite size preferred
2.1, 3.1, 5.1, 7.1? 5.1 with woofer


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Budget?
Floor vs bookshelves?
2.1, 3.1, 5.1, 7.1?
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Definitely provide that information smile.gif

As far as the RCs, if you ran them too loud to wear the amp was clipping, it would definitely kill the tweeters on them. But that's true for any speaker. You don't want to run it so loud that the amplifier clarity starts to drop because of distortion.

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Budget? upto 400
Floor vs bookshelves? satellite size preferred
2.1, 3.1, 5.1, 7.1? 5.1 with woofer

thanks in advance for helping out
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Satellite size could put you right back in the situation you are in right now.

Moreover, $400 will not replace the RC-Micros. You'd probably be downgrading.

My suggestion would be to start with the front three, and use two of your existing micros for the rear (if 2 still work).

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What type of speakers would have an longer life? price is not an issue but I do not want to go for high end. so what recommendations do you have for decent speakers that would last for few years. thanks again.
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How will Polk Audio RM705 be for replacement. It has glowing reviews on amazon and is around $200.
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How will Polk Audio RM705 be for replacement. It has glowing reviews on amazon and is around $200.
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How will Polk Audio RM705 be for replacement. It has glowing reviews on amazon and is around $200.
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I would rather get a 2.1 system for 400 than satellites.
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What type of speakers would have an longer life? price is not an issue but I do not want to go for high end. so what recommendations do you have for decent speakers that would last for few years. thanks again.

It depends . . .

* If you were over driving the Micros where they were getting too much clean power, then speakers that can take more power would help.

* If you were clipping the amp, then you could destroy almost anything you put in there if you clip them, too. Tweeters are not going to handle being given heavy distortion. However, people tend to feel that larger speakers have a fuller sound, and you might find some speakers with a higher sensitivity rating that get a little louder for the same amount of amplifier power, and thus maybe you wouldn't run the amp quite to its limits and clip them.

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The RM705 has a 2.5" midrange and a 1/2" tweeter.

That's not going to be any better than the RC Micro and I think would be a waste of money.

You should really upgrade to some bookshelf speakers that can handle more power and will sound fuller.

The Cambridge Audio S30 is only 9" tall but has larger and deeper cabinet than the Micros or RM705 plus larger drivers. I think these would be much better for your receiver and room. They come in Dark Oak and Black.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAS30&variation=DKOAK

Matching center is the S50
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CAS50&variation=DKOAK

So two pair of the s30 and the s50 center will run you about $640. You said you could spend more than $400 and this would be well worth it.

If you're willing to go larger a couple pair of these Infinity P153 on sale for $49 each would be right in your price range. 4 speakers would cost you $200.
http://www.frys.com/product/6937347?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

matching center can be had for $149.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_108PC251BK/Infinity-Primus-PC251.html?tp=189&kw=&org=pla&nw=g&crv=6535434025

That's $350 for five speakers if you time it right.

Five of these NHT Superzero 2.0 would be nice too if you still insist on a smaller speaker. Lay one on its side as a center.
http://www.nhthifi.com/Bookshelf-speaker-SuperZero-2-0?sc=12&category=3772

Keep your Energy sub until you can afford a much better subwoofer.

Like was said above, if you listen at very loud levels your receiver could be clipping and the distortion will damage any speaker.

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Thanks afrogt, great recommendations helped me a lot.

I looked at super zero NHT the power handling is 75W. I have an onkyo TX-NR619 (100W power when used in 5 speaker config and 120W when used in 2 speaker). Will these speakers have any problem using them with onkyo?
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Thanks afrogt, great recommendations helped me a lot.

I looked at super zero NHT the power handling is 75W. I have an onkyo TX-NR619 (100W power when used in 5 speaker config and 120W when used in 2 speaker). Will these speakers have any problem using them with onkyo?
I'd say 2 pairs of Pioneer SP-BS22's and a center. Will that receiver work at 6ohms?

It isn't really a matter of speakers but the user, 100w per channel should power most speakers up to a good volume, besides very large hard to drive speakers or something like Mangepans or Martain logan electros.

Do you listen extremely loud? Did you have a sub with your cross-overs set properly? Id say at least 80hz or higher with tiny satellites (80hz would be good with decent book shelves) speaker can play louder with the proper cross-over. Or there could of been an impedance mismatch idk but all of them shouldn't of broke at the same time.
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I looked at super zero NHT the power handling is 75W. I have an onkyo TX-NR619 (100W power when used in 5 speaker config and 120W when used in 2 speaker). Will these speakers have any problem using them with onkyo?

NHT and Onkyo will be fine - However, I prefer the Cambridge Audio speakers over them

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Thanks afrogt, great recommendations helped me a lot.

I looked at super zero NHT the power handling is 75W. I have an onkyo TX-NR619 (100W power when used in 5 speaker config and 120W when used in 2 speaker). Will these speakers have any problem using them with onkyo?

Given that you already blew up the Micros, it's a good guess you like to run your system hard. I would not buy speakers that are rated less than your receiver 100 watt rating given that the Micros were also rated at 100 watts. Not unless you plan on being more cautious about running your system as loud as you did before. Speaker recommended wattage ratings are not always accurate (and that's being nice), but if their recommended range is a bit less than 100 watts, do you trust yourself?

The Infinity and Cambridge Audio speakers would be my choice given your situation.

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Thanks afrogt, great recommendations helped me a lot.

I looked at super zero NHT the power handling is 75W. I have an onkyo TX-NR619 (100W power when used in 5 speaker config and 120W when used in 2 speaker). Will these speakers have any problem using them with onkyo?

For less than the SZ you could get Infinity Primus P163 - with better dynamic range.

I love my SZs but no way would I recommend them for people who like it loud.
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Thanks for all the recommendations.

We have mostly decided to shoot over the budget and am seriously thinking about Definitive Technology BP-8060ST with Definitive Technology CS-8040HD and Definitive Technology SR-8040BP Bipolar surround speaker. we checked it out in bestbuy and really liked it. please let us know any cons if we go for this.
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Wow, that's a major change from satellite speakers. And way over your $400 budget.

Did I see that right, Best Buy sells the BP-8060ST for $999 each?

You didn't just shoot over your budget, you blew it up!!! eek.gif

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Wow, that's a major change from satellite speakers. And way over your $400 budget.

Did I see that right, Best Buy sells the BP-8060ST for $999 each?

You didn't just shoot over your budget, you blew it up!!! eek.gif

There is a deal right now:
http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-BP-8060ST-CS-8040HD-SR-8040BP/dp/B009P9XX60/ref=sr_1_2?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1359849109&sr=1-2&keywords=Definitive

I believe all authorized resellers are offering this deal. Heck of a deal for $2K.

OP, just make sure you have some room for these speakers to breathe. I have found bipolar speakers need a good 2' from all boundary walls. If you get too close to the wall with a bipolar speaker they tend to sound muddy and bloated.
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Thanks All, this forum is very helpful.
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Congrats on your choice. smile.gif

Let us know how they sound once you get them.

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sure will post the pictures smile.gif
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Thanks to all for helping out. I bought the definitive speakers and they sound awesome. here are some pictures. 20130304_201957.jpg 1801k .jpg file 20130304_202028.jpg 1660k .jpg file
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Nice! Those things are huge smile.gif

If you can, bring them forward until they are flush with your entertainment center more.

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yes, I am planning to bring them forward smile.gif thanks for the tip.
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