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There really hasn't been much traffic on this thread, surely there must be more people that have bought the 228HT speakers?
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Yes, the Palladium's were built from 2008 according to the Klipsch website. The msrp is $20,000 per pair. There are favorable reviews all over the place. I have never heard them myself.

I have the RF-83's and I think the msrp was $2500 per pair. They are commonly offered at a large discount so no one ever plays full price. Mine were 50% off. So my RF-83's are $625 each. That is in line with what most people actually pay.

That makes the 228's nearly twice the cost. And I have no doubt that they are worth every penny. The JTR 228's should best anything from the Klipsch Reference line if the price point is any indication. I absolutely love the 212's and if they are any indication I would expect the 228's to offer superior clarity compared to the RF series especially at high volumes. Not to mention a sturdy compression driver which many people need in order to safely boost the treble to compensate for an AT screen (myself included).

Anyway, the 228 is high on my list of affordable speakers to put in my room. My expectations would be that the 228's are an enormously more capable speaker for movies. I don't know how they would compare for music. I really don't feel my RF's are broken for music so we will see.

I am hoping to hear them soon.......hint hint Jonathan. It would be fun to compare with the 212, and Mr Smithers new SEOS speakers too.

I'm in. I'd be willing to take my 212's over but you might have to come over and help me load them up. Did you get a chance to listen much to Kevin's SEOS speakers on the deck? I was very impressed.
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I am sorry I didn't get to hear Carp's demo after the blind amp tests. My experience is limited but the best home theaters I have heard are Earl Geddes room in Detroit and BoneDoc's theater in Lees Summit (Erskine theater). Both had great dynamics and the best bass integration although Earl does not try for subterranean bass. Sorry this is probably OT.
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In hindsight I should have done the demo first... although that might have fried our ears for the amp comparison. smile.gif
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Ive had mine for a few months, but my room was still the framing phase... Now that my room is done minus a few cosmetics, I will be setting my equipment up shortly... Postings soon fellas.
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Any thoughts on a 212HT LR with a 228HT center versus a 212HT LCR with the center laying horizontally?
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Any thoughts on a 212HT LR with a 228HT center versus a 212HT LCR with the center laying horizontally?
3 identical 212s would be the best choice but a 228HT would be the next best. Tell Jeff when ordering to rotate the horn for horizontal placement.
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Any thoughts on a 212HT LR with a 228HT center versus a 212HT LCR with the center laying horizontally?
That is how I am set up. Jeff rotated the horn on my 228.
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What are the options for raising the 228HT's for use as right and left floorstanders?

Subs, speaker stands (name brand, height and where bought, please) and what else?

And does anyone have custom cabinet 228's? If so, what is the additional cost?

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Jeff can make you speaker stands that exactly match the speakers. I would call him to ask about the cost and the cost of custom finishes.

You could also buy some Captivator subs (sealed ot ported) from Jeff and use those as stands. They are available in custom finishes as well.
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Jeff can make you speaker stands that exactly match the speakers. I would call him to ask about the cost and the cost of custom finishes.

That's what I did.

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The 212HT LP is 12.5 inches deep. Is that including grille?
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The 212HT LP is 12.5 inches deep. Is that including grille?

No, but the grille only adds 1/4" to the depth.

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Ok. I wouldn't need the grille since it would go behind a fabric covered wall and AT screen.

Speaker terminals on the back as far as I can tell on photos, so some space behind it would be required to make room for speakers cables I suppose.
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We recently listened to carp's 212HT L/R and one of my 228HT as a center at carp's house. Both carp and I thought the setup sounded excellent. If you'd prefer the 212HT for better/larger/musical soundstage reproduction, but don't have the cash for three - you could substitute a 228HT for the center speaker and still do quite well.

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We recently listened to carp's 212HT L/R and one of my 228HT as a center at carp's house. Both carp and I thought the setup sounded excellent. If you'd prefer the 212HT for better/larger/musical soundstage reproduction, but don't have the cash for three - you could substitute ad 228HT for the center speaker and still do quite well.

Yep.

In fact, I liked the 228 center better than my own 212 center. I don't know if that was because the 228 was stacked on top of the 212 at ear level (probably had a lot to do with it) but even if that was the reason it says a lot about the 228.
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So I have 3 SHO-10's from Chase Home Theater as LCR with the center SHO-10 horizontal. Now, I really like the speakers, but I'm still having slight problems hearing dialogue in movies... still riding the volume buttons up and down (up for hearing dialogue, then down when the action gets too loud). Not nearly as bad as before, but the problem is still there. I do not listen very loud in general, more like -20dB to -25dB.

What do you think of the 228HT's in terms of clarity of dialogue for movies at these lower volumes? Would I still have to mess with the volume control throughout a movie? I was really hopeful about the SHO-10's, and they are great speakers for their low price, but still not there.
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Well last night I watch the movie "The Man with the Iron Fists", I know not the greatest movie....lol
But anyways it was late at night and the kids and wife were asleep so I watched the entire movie at -25 and it was great at even at low levels how crystal clear and easy it was to hear dialog from the speakers.

Bezoar, you should try to grab another SHO-10 and use those for surrounds and grab three 228HT's for your LCR's!
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Does anyone have pictures of the 228HTs with matching stands built by Jeff? I'm interested in using these for a 3.1 setup in my living room and I'd like to have stands that are built well and look good with the speakers.

I've noticed a good bit of you use subs as risers for the L and R, but two subs is not going to be an option for me. Just barely enough room at the left main for a speaker of this size and one sub will be hard enough to convince my wife!

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Does anyone have pictures of the 228HTs with matching stands built by Jeff? I'm interested in using these for a 3.1 setup in my living room and I'd like to have stands that are built well and look good with the speakers.

I've noticed a good bit of you use subs as risers for the L and R, but two subs is not going to be an option for me. Just barely enough room at the left main for a speaker of this size and one sub will be hard enough to convince my wife!

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I'll try posting pics soon. I have the stands for my 228s and they look great. Oh, and my Polk 703 surrounds now have a big friend.....
my new sub!

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Thanks for that picture. Very unassuming speakers. Just black monoliths. I will probably run mine without the screens just so I have something to look at. They are looking smallish now to me, maybe I should have just pony'd up for the 212's.
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Keep in mind, that is an 80" Sharp TV. They aren't really small

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Nice picture! I like the uniform look of the stands and 228HTs. Now to figure out how (money / wife) and when I can place an order with Jeff for (3) 228HTs and (1) Cap 2400!

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Keep in mind, that is an 80" Sharp TV. They aren't really small

That does change the perspective. Guess they wont look too small on the side of a 92" screen then. Im just used to staring at monster DefTech towers.

EDIT: Just looked up the specs, didnt realize with the stands they will only be 2" shorter than my DT's. Good deal!
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Well thats not fair. We all want to see speaker porn. Share it with everyone.

Ha, sorry. They were taken in a very unfinished basement with a crappy cell phone (as Rangers and emr can attest). I promise some pics when I'm finally done. Also, they are not small at all. As Ranger alluded to, it's a matter of perspective in that pic.

Btw, Ranger, the setup looks great!

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Hey Carp, thank a lot for helping me decide on speakers. My noesis 228's kick some serious azz. I have pics in my build.. biggrin.gif
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