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Old 07-28-2013, 12:42 PM
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The 212HT LP is 12.5 inches deep. Is that including grille?
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Old 07-28-2013, 02:27 PM
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The 212HT LP is 12.5 inches deep. Is that including grille?

No, but the grille only adds 1/4" to the depth.

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Old 07-28-2013, 03:09 PM
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Ok. I wouldn't need the grille since it would go behind a fabric covered wall and AT screen.

Speaker terminals on the back as far as I can tell on photos, so some space behind it would be required to make room for speakers cables I suppose.
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We recently listened to carp's 212HT L/R and one of my 228HT as a center at carp's house. Both carp and I thought the setup sounded excellent. If you'd prefer the 212HT for better/larger/musical soundstage reproduction, but don't have the cash for three - you could substitute a 228HT for the center speaker and still do quite well.

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We recently listened to carp's 212HT L/R and one of my 228HT as a center at carp's house. Both carp and I thought the setup sounded excellent. If you'd prefer the 212HT for better/larger/musical soundstage reproduction, but don't have the cash for three - you could substitute ad 228HT for the center speaker and still do quite well.

Yep.

In fact, I liked the 228 center better than my own 212 center. I don't know if that was because the 228 was stacked on top of the 212 at ear level (probably had a lot to do with it) but even if that was the reason it says a lot about the 228.
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So I have 3 SHO-10's from Chase Home Theater as LCR with the center SHO-10 horizontal. Now, I really like the speakers, but I'm still having slight problems hearing dialogue in movies... still riding the volume buttons up and down (up for hearing dialogue, then down when the action gets too loud). Not nearly as bad as before, but the problem is still there. I do not listen very loud in general, more like -20dB to -25dB.

What do you think of the 228HT's in terms of clarity of dialogue for movies at these lower volumes? Would I still have to mess with the volume control throughout a movie? I was really hopeful about the SHO-10's, and they are great speakers for their low price, but still not there.
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Well last night I watch the movie "The Man with the Iron Fists", I know not the greatest movie....lol
But anyways it was late at night and the kids and wife were asleep so I watched the entire movie at -25 and it was great at even at low levels how crystal clear and easy it was to hear dialog from the speakers.

Bezoar, you should try to grab another SHO-10 and use those for surrounds and grab three 228HT's for your LCR's!
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Does anyone have pictures of the 228HTs with matching stands built by Jeff? I'm interested in using these for a 3.1 setup in my living room and I'd like to have stands that are built well and look good with the speakers.

I've noticed a good bit of you use subs as risers for the L and R, but two subs is not going to be an option for me. Just barely enough room at the left main for a speaker of this size and one sub will be hard enough to convince my wife!

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Does anyone have pictures of the 228HTs with matching stands built by Jeff? I'm interested in using these for a 3.1 setup in my living room and I'd like to have stands that are built well and look good with the speakers.

I've noticed a good bit of you use subs as risers for the L and R, but two subs is not going to be an option for me. Just barely enough room at the left main for a speaker of this size and one sub will be hard enough to convince my wife!

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I'll try posting pics soon. I have the stands for my 228s and they look great. Oh, and my Polk 703 surrounds now have a big friend.....
my new sub!

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Thanks for that picture. Very unassuming speakers. Just black monoliths. I will probably run mine without the screens just so I have something to look at. They are looking smallish now to me, maybe I should have just pony'd up for the 212's.
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Keep in mind, that is an 80" Sharp TV. They aren't really small

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Nice picture! I like the uniform look of the stands and 228HTs. Now to figure out how (money / wife) and when I can place an order with Jeff for (3) 228HTs and (1) Cap 2400!

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Keep in mind, that is an 80" Sharp TV. They aren't really small

That does change the perspective. Guess they wont look too small on the side of a 92" screen then. Im just used to staring at monster DefTech towers.

EDIT: Just looked up the specs, didnt realize with the stands they will only be 2" shorter than my DT's. Good deal!
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Well thats not fair. We all want to see speaker porn. Share it with everyone.

Ha, sorry. They were taken in a very unfinished basement with a crappy cell phone (as Rangers and emr can attest). I promise some pics when I'm finally done. Also, they are not small at all. As Ranger alluded to, it's a matter of perspective in that pic.

Btw, Ranger, the setup looks great!

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Hey Carp, thank a lot for helping me decide on speakers. My noesis 228's kick some serious azz. I have pics in my build.. biggrin.gif
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Hey Carp, thank a lot for helping me decide on speakers. My noesis 228's kick some serious azz. I have pics in my build.. biggrin.gif

Very cool, glad to hear you like them! smile.gif

Where are the pictures? I couldn't find them.
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Hmmm. How would traditional dome speakers like B&W compare with the 228HT?

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My opinion is that while traditional dome speakers can be very nice at lower SPL levels, it is unlikely that they would be able to achieve the same effortless sound at reference level that the 228's deliver.

The JTR offerings can deliver sound like a high end commercial theater in your home. I did not really understand the difference until I experienced it. That is not saying that there are not other manufacturers out there with similar offerings, but JTR, in my opinion, delivers phenomenal sound quality at a price that is hard to beat.
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It really is hard to believe what these speakers are capable of until you hear them for yourself, at first I didn't really know if I should believe the hype or not on JTR speakers and I've demoed some fairly high end speakers so I had a good idea how what some other high end brands sound like.

After finally hearing and owning some JTR speakers I can say the speakers really seem to live up to the hype.
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Do they do in home demos? I would love to hear them.

These are horns correct? I remember last year i went to comic con in NY and they had these fairly big horn speakers. The usual for events like these. There was game being played through them and let me tell you, i've never heard a more dynamic and clear sounding speaker like those. The high frequencies were crystal clear but not fatiguing. It was almost soothing actually. Are all horn speakers like this?

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Do they do in home demos? I would love to hear them.

These are horns correct? I remember last year i went to comic con in NY and they had these fairly big horn speakers. The usual for events like these. There was game being played through them and let me tell you, i've never heard a more dynamic and clear sounding speaker like those. The high frequencies were crystal clear but not fatiguing. It was almost soothing actually. Are all horn speakers like this?
These are horns. No, not all horn speakers are like this, but the JTR offerings are.

Your best bet is to either find a get together or post your location and ask whether there are any owners in your area. Jeff makes all of the speakers himself and they ship from Wisconsin, so I do not think there are any local dealers to do things like in home demos.
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JTR speakers have a money back guarantee if you talk with Jeff, because he will stand behind his product. However, you are responsible for return shipping if you decide to return them, but Jeffs price to ship is reasonable for the 228ht.

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Other than the preorder specials, does Jeff ever have any specials during the year, like Black Friday? Thinking about the 228's.
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I doubt it. They are made to order speakers with a 1 month or so back log. And for what you get they really seem to be a bargain...coming from a guy that has 212HT-LPs and Slanted 8s on order but have never heard JTR speakers.

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Back when they first came out they were pre-order priced at $999ea. But that ship has sailed.
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He doesn't usually run any seasonal specials that I've seen except the occassional year end close out on models he is looking to update. You read about those deals or others when he posts them directly at the otherwise typically pretty dead JTR Speaker forum.
http://jtrspeakers.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=104675

Or call him directly and see if he is overstocked on anything? (unlikely to be overstocked on any Noesis).

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