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Most is who bought the Noesis listen to more music than we anticipated.

Did you get a quote from Jeff on the shipped price of the triple eight vs. 228ht? I'd start there.

The triple eight I'd auditioned before, in several rooms and in my room too. They were very good, but not quite enough to make me open my wallet. However the 228ht audition in my room made me excited to buy and turned me into a JTR speaker owner(I had their subs before). My room was not treated, and the controlled directivity of the Noesis wave guide was a big boon! The triple eight are excellent for movies though in each and every room I auctioned them in, so if that's your bent, look no further.

There is a set of triple twelves in the classified right now for 3100 used so that might be something to consider too - big brother to the triple eight.

Thanks for taking time to reply. I'm 100% or as close as you can get. I do have one Kings of Leon Blu-ray but that's it. So it sounds like the Triple 8 HT's would be perfect. However, I would need stands so that would get me $100 away from the trip 12's. I was wondering if I could move the driver with the compression tweeter to the top of the triple 12 's so it's at ear level and then go with a triple 8 for a center?

I saw the Triple 12's in the classifieds and that's what actually got me to call Jeff. The guy lives in Sacramento and doesn't have boxes. I called Jeff to price boxes and it's cost prohibitive. That's when I learned the HT's were on close out "because everyone is buying the noesis" and for consolidation reasons.
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Thanks for taking time to reply. I'm 100% or as close as you can get. I do have one Kings of Leon Blu-ray but that's it. So it sounds like the Triple 8 HT's would be perfect. However, I would need stands so that would get me $100 away from the trip 12's. I was wondering if I could move the driver with the compression tweeter to the top of the triple 12 's so it's at ear level and then go with a triple 8 for a center?

I saw the Triple 12's in the classifieds and that's what actually got me to call Jeff. The guy lives in Sacramento and doesn't have boxes. I called Jeff to price boxes and it's cost prohibitive. That's when I learned the HT's were on close out "because everyone is buying the noesis" and for consolidation reasons.
Those were my Triple 12's and they have the latest Triple's compression driver and crossover. If you are up to the long drive it might be worth it and yes, you can easily move the coaxial to the upper position.

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How are people setting up a JTR system for Atmos?
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You could use a single eight or a slanted eight on the ceiling, or wait for Jeff to release a ceiling type box soon.

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I think that I'm going to wait to see what Jeff comes up with before I make any decision.

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What are the odds he'd do a 6" coaxial in-ceiling??
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Probably not real high unless you custom order. I suspect he'd most easily just change the single eight box to be a flatter design with the same internal volume and go with that for a ceiling mount box.

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What are the odds he'd do a 6" coaxial in-ceiling??
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review from the JTR speaker thread posted yesterday about the 228HT
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Just watched into the storm with the new 228s. Jeeezzee that movie seemed loud. I couldn't watch at reference level, not even close. It was a great test for these speakers, there was a lot of dynamic range which they handled with ease. I also noticed a lot of higher pitch stuff like water spraying, wind blowing, glass shattering, metal crunching and scraping sounds that would get very fatiging if u didn't have the right speakers. This I where I was most impressed with the 228s. Even cranked with those higher sounds my ears never felt strained. Klipsch basically ruined any chance of me buying any kind of horn speaker years ago when I heard them and had ear fatigue in 10ins. Not at all the case with the 228s. The speakers continue to impress me

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How would these 228 compare to my Triad Classic Golds for LCR?
Triad Classic Gold specs:
-90 db 1w/1m sensitive
-max power ratting 200 watts
-single 1" dome tweeter mounted into a dispersion control lens
-two 6.5 inch woofers
-4 ohms
-80 hz to 20 kHz +/- 3 db


I like to watch movies at -10 on volume control
I sit about 8 feet from my LCR channels and have a dedicated and treated HT.


Separate questions:
If I kept my four triad dipole Golds as surrounds, would they mix well with 228 as my LCR?




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How would these 228 compare to my Triad Classic Golds for LCR?
Triad Classic Gold specs:
-90 db 1w/1m sensitive
-max power ratting 200 watts
-single 1" dome tweeter mounted into a dispersion control lens
-two 6.5 inch woofers
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-80 hz to 20 kHz +/- 3 db


I like to watch movies at -10 on volume control
I sit about 8 feet from my LCR channels and have a dedicated and treated HT.


Separate questions:
If I kept my four triad dipole Golds as surrounds, would they mix well with 228 as my LCR?




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http://jtrspeakers.com/home-audio/noesis-228ht/
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I get a good bit of information from the threads; however I'd like to look at the spec's of 228HT and its big brother but the JTR website is either down or painfully slow. Is there another source? I'm assuming they are still $1199? Anyone in the DC area with these? I've met several of you at Austins house about a year ago prior to one of your trips to PA for some blind testing. Got the itch to make a change ... currently running Triad Gold LCRs. Thanks - Chad
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I get a good bit of information from the threads; however I'd like to look at the spec's of 228HT and its big brother but the JTR website is either down or painfully slow. Is there another source? I'm assuming they are still $1199? Anyone in the DC area with these? I've met several of you at Austins house about a year ago prior to one of your trips to PA for some blind testing. Got the itch to make a change ... currently running Triad Gold LCRs. Thanks - Chad
@avgorder owns the 228HT...If he still lives in Herndon, VA, he might be able to help with a demo.

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@avgorder owns the 228HT...If he still lives in Herndon, VA, he might be able to help with a demo.
Thanks .. I'll PM him. Based on your signature, I'm assuming you have the 212? Were you at Austins about a year ago when he was torturing a 24" SI (w/o a box)?
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Thanks .. I'll PM him. Based on your signature, I'm assuming you have the 212? Were you at Austins about a year ago when he was torturing a 24" SI (w/o a box)?
Yes I still live in Herndon,VA. You are welcome for a demo any time..

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Thanks .. I'll PM him. Based on your signature, I'm assuming you have the 212? Were you at Austins about a year ago when he was torturing a 24" SI (w/o a box)?
Yes, was there...by torture...you mean the wobble wobble

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Yes I still live in Herndon,VA. You are welcome for a demo any time..
You still have to come over man...

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asoofi1,

I will definitely visit you in the coming days, been thinking of it since a long time.

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Those were my Triple 12's and they have the latest Triple's compression driver and crossover. If you are up to the long drive it might be worth it and yes, you can easily move the coaxial to the upper position.

If you decide to do that let me know and you can come by for a quick demo of the 215RT's ...
RMK is move the coax as easy as unscrewing the driver, pulling it out and disconnecting? Or is there a trick or some caution I should use? I'm thinking of setting the front L&R 212th-lp's on my submerssive's but had Jeff put the CD in the top when they were made. I'm going to set all the subs and speakers up in the new config, run audessy and see what I think before moving drivers.
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RMK is move the coax as easy as unscrewing the driver, pulling it out and disconnecting? Or is there a trick or some caution I should use? I'm thinking of setting the front L&R 212th-lp's on my submerssive's but had Jeff put the CD in the top when they were made. I'm going to set all the subs and speakers up in the new config, run audessy and see what I think before moving drivers.
Are these Triple 12HT-LP's or Noesis 212HT-LP's? if Noesis then no dice as the horn mount is different than the woofer.

If they are T12 HT-LP'S then basically yes, it's just that easy. The only issue is making sure that the speaker lead wires are long enough to reach the new locations of the Coaxial and Woofer. The wires are different colors to be sure to write down which is which. If you're lucky the coax is close to the crossover. Take it out first and be careful as you may need to gently pry it loose from the cabinet.

BTW, I had my Noesis 212HT-LP's on top of Orbit Shifters and with 3.5" Great Grammas under the 212's and no issues so you might be good just as they are. Those Submersives are so inert you can put the speakers right on them with maybe some felt underneath.

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Wow, thanks for the quick response rmk.

Sorry, it's the Triple 12 HT- lp. I just got back down from setting them up. I screwed up setting up the room and put all the speakers and hdmi runs in the front right corner so it's a little crowded over there. Sur looks imposing with all those huge drivers...
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In case anyone is interested in 228HT, but wants an atypical discount. It appears Jeff is hosting a moving sale! There are three new 228HT on sale for 20% off. That's very close to original pre-order pricing!
http://jtrspeakers.websitetoolbox.co...dit-41-7350054

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Guys I'm looking at upgrading my sound system consisting of, a bk monolith 300watt rms, and monitor audio bx2 package, iv just upgraded my projector to a 4k sony and thinking il need to upgrade the sound to match the picture quality , I'm looking at selling my speakers/sub and getting a captivator 1400 (maybe 2) and the noesis 228ht as my front left, center and right (not to sure what to do about rears), will this be a worthy upgrade and what kind of amplification do you think il need to power all of this
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It will be a phenomenal setup for cinema and music!

An AVR serves well till screaming volume levels with the very the very efficient Noesis.

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Has anyone gotten to listen to both the 228 and the RA cx-15? Just wondering since they are roughly the same price.
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Has anyone gotten to listen to both the 228 and the RA cx-15? Just wondering since they are roughly the same price.
send @jbrown15 a PM. I think he's owned both
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Has anyone gotten to listen to both the 228 and the RA cx-15? Just wondering since they are roughly the same price.

I personally liked the CX-15's better which led to me selling my 228's. I still believe the 228's are one of the best speakers around at it's price point and even above that, I just think the CX-15's are slightly better.


Here's the thread from the second GTG that I hosted which actually was a double blind listening audition, just thought we'd try it out for fun.
Anyways from what I recall without actually going back and reading over the thread almost everyone there preferred the CX-15's over the 228's too.
Vancouver GTG round 2.


If I was doing it all over again today though I'd seriously be considering the CX-12 speakers from Reaction Audio. 4' narrower and can play almost as low and still have awesome mid bass, and a pair of them is only $1700 shipped. You could actually get an LCR setup of CX-12t's for less then a pair of 228HT's.
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Hey there, jbrown. My PMs have been having trouble getting to a few fellas. Did you get the last one I sent with further questions about the above?
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Hey there, jbrown. My PMs have been having trouble getting to a few fellas. Did you get the last one I sent with further questions about the above?

The last pm I received was on 03/29/15 but we were discussing RA subs. So if you've sent me some PM's about speakers I never got them.
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Copy that. Just zipped you a PM. I SHOULD be all good again.
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