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http://www.stereophile.com/content/kef-ls50-anniversary-model-loudspeaker
http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/KEF-LS50-Loudspeaker.shtml


Today was a good day. I went back to Quest For Sound in Bensalem, PA - where I purchased a TT last month - to audition a bunch of bookies.




Stephen has 3 little rooms and a big room. I went to listen to a set of the Paradigm Studio 10, and went home with some amazing KEF LS50 speakers.
The Studio 10s are nice, quite musical. I may have even purchased them. Prolly should have!
But I had to hear the KEFs. The rest is history.

They were supposed to be a part of a 2.1 listening room.
This room will now be just 2.0! These KEFs will get the job done.




-Peachtree Nova 125 from HiFi House in Delaware (local to me store, Anthony)
-KEF LS50 Anniversary Model Monitors
-VPI Traveler TT
-2M Blue Cart
-Cambridge 651P preamp (TT)
-Apple TV -> fiber into the Nova

Nothing amazing about these pics, but these boxes are so unique, I wanted to share!

Unboxing of the KEF LS50 speakers:




Average to above avg packaging job. Nothing like when I opened up my VPI Traveler Turntable, that was ridiculous. But these speakers were safe and sound in the box.

They are close to 16lbs each
11.9 x 7.9 x 10.9 in.
85db sensitivity
Amplifier requirements 25 - 100 W
I will be fueling them with the Peachtree Nova 125, which is 125x2
















They sounded A M A Z I N G in the store. Like no other bookshelf I've ever heard.
FULL sound that you just can not hide from.
How do they sound at home?
UMMM yea, we're gonna have to have you come in on SATURDAY.
The Nova will not be here for 4-5 more days.
I recently bi-amped the mains in the media room, so I can't easily hook these KEFs up in there.
They are giant paper weights right now, on the desk in my office. Unreal.
I just don't have an easy way to get these bad boys some fuel right now!
AAHHHH!!! Patience right? Sure, but I don't have a choice;)



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Waiting for audio gear is awful!

I feel for you, but I too am waiting for an integrated amp for my LS50's.

UGG!
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Waiting for audio gear is awful!

I feel for you, but I too am waiting for an integrated amp for my LS50's.

UGG!

did you get it yet? I have not, so today I acted!

I couldn't take the wait for my integrated for my 2.0 room, office. These KEFs have been waiting impatiently to be broken in. So I unhooked my Studio60 floor standing speakers, which I was bi-amping and reconfigured my avr to a standard configuration. Used some stools as speaker stands! This is in my media room. Took 3 mins.

My AVR is a Denon 3312CI, 125wpc. About 2 yrs old now.

Let me tell you, I was expecting them to sound great, but not this great. The integrated I'm waiting on is 125wpc as well, but a different type of machine.
http://www.peachtreeaudio.com/nova12...-with-dac.html
a lot more grunt

However, wow the Denon got the job done.
You can't hear the low end from an iphone video, obviously, but YES it's there,
my entire media room sounds amazing, from two bookies!
I kept checking the display on the AVR to make sure the sub was off.

Silly to share a video of HIFI SPEAKERS! But that's me, silly.
at around 35 seconds I bring the iphone over to the speaker and you hear a much better sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OR14JjSWKY
as I said, can't really appreciate them from a video, but I was excited.
just the visual of these bad-boys was worth sharing.
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Just out of curiousity. What gauge speaker wire works best with these?
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I ran 12ga with them, into banana plugs today.

I have 10ga ready and waiting for when my new amp comes in.

you want to use 12ga IMO
10ga if you want to go overboard, like me. or if you have a long run.

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Thx. Pretty short run~ 8ft
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I think the Studio 60 is better for a larger room, and for A/V, which is why I have and love them in my movie room!

The KEF LS50 is for a studio size room in my home, smaller office setting.
They could work a big room, trust me....
and would be great in a big room.
although I had the sub off today ....
and after reading how everyone says the low-end is not great with these....
my jaw dropped, in a big room yes.
not ridiculous bass, but WOW it's there and it's beautiful and full.

now, if you have a center and sub, and want to put these in a bigger room, go for it!
they will be good for a/v, I just don't know how you'll match the center.

I will measure my media room soon, for reference, got a few PMs on this.

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Thx. Pretty short run~ 8ft

I got 10 gauge here, very highly recommended, and affordable.

http://www.knukonceptz.com/productDetail.cfm?prodID=KAR10SS

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did you get it yet? I have not, so today I acted!

Not yet.

Too funny, I have been listening to my Kef's an old Denon 1709 receiver. They sound great, I also have my main system Parasound A21 with a Conrad Johnson ET-2 preamp in my attic. I listened to the LS50's in the attic for a few days when the first arrived and that was a different sound than the Denon in a good way.
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Not yet.

Too funny, I have been listening to my Kef's an old Denon 1709 receiver. They sound great, I also have my main system Parasound A21 with a Conrad Johnson ET-2 preamp in my attic. I listened to the LS50's in the attic for a few days when the first arrived and that was a different sound than the Denon in a good way.

that is funny indeed. how old is the 1709, isn't that low power? 50wpc?
will you leave them on for a while, to get them broken in? if so, how long, how loud, type of music?

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if you want to run banana plugs, you just unscrew the caps, and pull out a plug, from each channel. then screw the caps back on, and then you can insert the banana plug.

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that is funny indeed. how old is the 1709, isn't that low power? 50wpc?
will you leave them on for a while, to get them broken in? if so, how long, how loud, type of music?

The last 2 digits in the nomenclature of Denon receivers is the build year. I listen to them 5 days per week an average of two hours per day since I've owned them (mid December). I listen at low volume mostly, while I am working, but I have turned them way up a few times when I let my hair down. I'm very impressed with the amount of low frequency they produce. Electonic, pop, jazz, classical in the morning and rock.

I sent you a PM Ryan.
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if you want to run banana plugs, you just unscrew the caps, and pull out a plug, from each channel. then screw the caps back on, and then you can insert the banana plug.

I'm using rough 2 gauge wire until my new amp arrives when I will throw in speaker cable with spades each end. I'm not much of a speaker cable enthusiast, I purchase based on looks and function.
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Bare wire, tinned wire, spade lug, banana plug?
this topic is like politics!
I like using these banana plugs, convenience! I like to move my speakers around, to dust, or just to relocate for listening, so I prefer banana.


2Y8C0967 by Open Screw Banana Plugs - my preference, on Flickr

this type of banana? I prefer open screw b/c I trust it more smile.gif
I don't like the cleaner look, closed screw.
but again, this is all so subjective.
I do not ever go bare wire, b/c I don't have the patience to unscrew everything every time I need to move or change something.

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Hi RyanA3,

I am seriously considering getting these speakers. So, couple of questions:

  1. What is the speaker base size (measured to outside of the speaker legs)? I want to know what would be the minimum stand top plate dimension.
  2. I like the cables that you purchases. Do you get these black split "sleeves" with the cable ends, or you have to purchase these separately?
  3. Which banana plugs do you have?

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Hi RyanA3,

I am seriously considering getting these speakers. So, couple of questions:

  1. What is the speaker base size (measured to outside of the speaker legs)? I want to know what would be the minimum stand top plate dimension.
  2. I like the cables that you purchases. Do you get these black split "sleeves" with the cable ends, or you have to purchase these separately?
  3. Which banana plugs do you have?

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Spending money? Helping the economy? I like it.

Click the link in my sig. in the first post, scroll down to the last room of the three, I lay out my accessories, with links and pricing!

I'll flip the speaker upside down tonight and measure the foot print.
The bottom is clean, nothing but glossly black speaker box.
They come with large, hd, rubber 3m sticky things, to put on there in case you're going desktop, like me.

I'll hook you up with that info later, although it may be on their website.
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Ryan,

How are you digging them on the desktop? What sort of amplification did QFS have running them? I'm thinking of heading over there in a few weeks for an audition. Curious to see how they'd compare to my Dynaudio BM5A MKIIs in my small 10 x 11 x 9 dedicated room.

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I'm looking at running ls50's w/ a sub maybe for mainly rock listening in a small room 11x12. Vpi scout and cdp. Looking for power suggestions. Open to ss, tubes, hybrid, or integrated. Suggestions? Thanx.
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I'm looking at running ls50's w/ a sub maybe for mainly rock listening in a small room 11x12. Vpi scout and cdp. Looking for power suggestions. Open to ss, tubes, hybrid, or integrated. Suggestions? Thanx.

They appreciate a good helping of quality power. I'd stick with solid state.

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They appreciate a good helping of quality power. I'd stick with solid state.

Bill

Thx. Pretty sure ill do ss on the power side, but not yet sure on pre side. Still going nuts looking at all the good options.
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FWIW I just switch from a Benchmark DAC HGC/Parasound HALO A23 combo to a McIntosh MA6300 and the latter seems to have better control over the bass...could just be those blue meters I'm in love with too.

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FWIW I just switch from a Benchmark DAC HGC/Parasound HALO A23 combo to a McIntosh MA6300 and the latter seems to have better control over the bass...could just be those blue meters I'm in love with too.

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Thx! That's good info. Seems like a financially reasonable way to get into Mac, and it is very difficult not to like that look.
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Any of you other guys get these yet?

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These are on my radar. I currently have Paradigm S1s that I use with my PC. I would love to compare these.
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Congrats on your new speakers! I picked up a pair a couple of weeks ago and drive them with my Cambridge Audio 651A Int amp, simply wonderful .

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Congrats on your new speakers! I picked up a pair a couple of weeks ago and drive them with my Cambridge Audio 651A Int amp, simply wonderful .

Enjoy folks

what are you listening too? music wise?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OR14JjSWKY
video from when I had the kef's in my bigger room.
the sound was huge from these little guys, no sub.

what can you say about a clip takin with a cell phone and played on your mobile device or laptop speakers --- nothing.
but..... I share anyway.

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Apple Lossless via USB to the amp.

I play lots of different genres of music, from blues, piano, acoustic, rock, some classical and Phantom of the Opera sounds wicked good:eek:
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I'm looking at running ls50's w/ a sub maybe for mainly rock listening in a small room 11x12. Vpi scout and cdp. Looking for power suggestions. Open to ss, tubes, hybrid, or integrated. Suggestions? Thanx.

One problem I have found with the LS50's and loud rock / metal music, is they do run out of steam / spl fairly easily. I am currently using them in a medium sized living / dining room system. I am currently powering them with a 130 w.p.ch. Sony ES receiver and have also used a separate Emotiva XPA-3, 200 w.p.ch. amplifier. I had recently replaced my older Energy Veritas V2.1's with the LS50's and definitely miss the louder low end and volume level that the V2.1's were capable of in comparison to the LS50's. Mind you, the mid-range and high's of the LS50's are of the best I've heard. I would recommend a small, musical sub with the LS50's for decent rock listening sessions biggrin.gif
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