The Onkyo S9400THX cannot be beat for the price, and while it is an HTIB, it's using all "real" components, i.e. powered subwoofer, standard speaker wire, none of the plasticy HTIB crap you'd normally think of. Unless you're looking to spend $1500+, this is the best buy out there. I have it and I love it. It's great for TV, music, movies, etc. The only thing is, it's not a massive system that will put out way more volume than you'd ever used, you can max out the volume, and it will be plenty loud, but it may not be completely overwhelming. Just go 7.1 now- you won't regret it.