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post #271 of 289 Old 10-28-2014, 09:01 PM
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I see. I sit about 10 feet also and the speakers about ten feet apart of each other. At first I had them pointing straight at me and I like the bright sound but was not happy with the bass. I started pointing out about 1 inch at the time and I'm about where I want it.

Sound stage sound more spacious but I still here the vocal in the middle and bass improved a lot. Right now they are, Front face of speaker is about 3 inches from center toe in. Not much but I think I'm about were I would like.
From your original picture in the B&W thread it looks like the toe-in in your arrangement is similar to mine. The bass issues you mentioned might have more to do with how close the speakers are to the walls and other reflective surfaces.

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From your original picture in the B&W thread it looks like the toe-in in your arrangement is similar to mine. The bass issues you mentioned might have more to do with how close the speakers are to the walls and other reflective surfaces.

How far from the wall it has to be. Right now they are about 20 inches. The bass was good but was weak for my taste. I figure the speakers pointing directly at me the sound of the highs and vocal were louder. I feel pointing them out a bit help to bring the bass up.
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How far from the wall it has to be. Right now they are about 20 inches. The bass was good but was weak for my taste. I figure the speakers pointing directly at me the sound of the highs and vocal were louder. I feel pointing them out a bit help to bring the bass up.
That's about right (maybe two feet for good measure but only if space is available). The toe-in enhanced the bass because of the unique properties of your room. In any case, as long it sounds good to you that's what matters.

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Bowers and Wilkins 683 - an honest review.

That's true. It takes time to learn your room and speakers sound but now the adjustments are getting smaller so I'm close to the optimal position for my taste.
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You might want to read this thread, particularly Bill's comments from post 67 regarding positioning....Speaker imaging, I'm just not hearing it
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You guy's have Me so confused now....I have been saving money to buy 6-683 s2 , 1-HTM61 s2, a pair of 685 s2, and 2-ASW61ST
I have a Sony StrDa5800es that I bought six months ago and it's never been out of the box and now I think maybe I should either for go the Sony and try to sell it for a big loss and just get a yamaha RXA3040 or maybe the marantz 7702 and pair that with the Yamaha MXA5000 or do I wait for the Marantz 8802 which comes out in the spring...or do I go with the onkyo 5530 or the onkyo 3030...really driving myself crazy
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My 4 years old 683 front black panel are getting sticky, any suggestion how to get rid?
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My 4 years old 683 front black panel are getting sticky, please advise how to remove the sticky.
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My 4 years old 683 front black panel are getting sticky, please advise how to remove the sticky.
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Do you mean the cabinets? Hopefully not the drivers.

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Sorry for the really late reply Bear I've been out of town on vacation Thank you now my 683 are getting the power they need and yes they do dip below 4 ohms quite a lot that's why I decided to get Emotiva XPA-1's. My set up is 2 Emotiva XPA-1's powering the front left and right B&W 683's,Emotiva XPA-5 powering my center B&W HTM61,685 Surrounds & 686 Rears & UPA-7 powering B&W 686 front Heights and Yamaha rear Heights love the set up sounds amazing for music and movies my room is not that big is 12'x16'x9 my focus was clarity and my current set up delivers that, and also I do watch movies and listen to music pretty loud most of the time. I will post a pic of my set up soon.

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How you do you know if the speakers are getting the power they need? Since there always a debate on this forums about amount of watts needed?

Is there a way to test my system to see if I have the amount of power I need?
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My 4 years old 683 front black panel are getting sticky, any suggestion how to get rid?
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I use Zaino Z6 detail spray to keep my piano black CM9s2's clean as new. Not sure what would make your speakers sticky.

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How you do you know if the speakers are getting the power they need? Since there always a debate on this forums about amount of watts needed?

Is there a way to test my system to see if I have the amount of power I need?
I don't think you have much to worry about with a Rotel setup. However, generally you can tell if you're lacking power if clipping occurs which results in noticeable distortion. The 683 S2s exhibit 3 ohm dips so it's good to have a 4 ohm stable receiver or amplifier.

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I use Zaino Z6 detail spray to keep my piano black CM9s2's clean as new. Not sure what would make your speakers sticky.
With the vinyl-wrap cabinets of the 683 S1 or S2, a bit of water and a soft cloth should do the trick (very mild detergent would probably be ok as well).

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I don't think you have much to worry about with a Rotel setup. However, generally you can tell if you're lacking power if clipping occurs which results in noticeable distortion. The 683 S2s exhibit 3 ohm dips so it's good to have a 4 ohm stable receiver or amplifier.

Oh ok. I don't think I listen to them loud enough to distort. Unless I'm not sure what I'm looking for as clipping. I got the RA-1570
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Oh ok. I don't think I listen to them loud enough to distort. Unless I'm not sure what I'm looking for as clipping. I got the RA-1570
what does clipping sound like?

As I said before, it's generally pretty apparent when clipping occurs. See the thread above for some good information and indicators of clipping.
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You should be feeding them with at least 50 real watts of power and fwi B&W really underestimates the power capacity of their speaker's and can easily handle 25% more wattage than specified as long as it isn't clipping. ..basically if you have to turn your system past 90% of the volume you should have a larger amp.
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Thanks. Yeah I would say I sat around 60-65%. It goes from 0 to +100. With music the loudest I would go is 55 - 60 and that is real loud to me, and movies some times 60-70. Seems like movies are mastered lower than music


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