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I use this receiver currently: Denon AVR 1612
I use these B1.2 Athenas (Rear): http://www.athenaspeakers.com/produc...pecifications/

I use Bic Acoustech HT-88's (Front): http://www.overstock.com/Electronics...9/product.html

I use an Bic Acoustech HT-65 for the center

Sub is a PA-150

I still have done no sound treatment at all.
I notice my ears get really tired from listening compared to going to the theatre. Especially my right ear, I have a little bit of hearing damage as well. I feel as though these horn tweeters might be too bright as well. I have some Boston acoustics upstairs, sound a bit warmer.

I think I'd be willing to spend around a thousand for the 5 speakers, keeping the sub.

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Nice looking room you have there. Here are my 2 quick picks in that price range. If you listen to music and like warmer sound, option #1 would be better. Less $ for the speakers, as they just got discontinued, but your receiver will struggle to reach higher volumes. If you want to keep your receiver and save some cash and want great HT sound option 2 is a great choice based on how frequently they're recommended around here. But I;ve never heard them.

Option #1: If you could get your hands on a more powerful receiver somehow (hear me out), I would recommend 2 pairs of Wharfedale DIamond 10.1 and a 10.CS Center. That will put you right at $997 from Music Direct with free shipping. Wharfedale Diamonds sound warm but clear with an awesome, lush midrange. Very smooth, non-fatiguing sound. They are very,very popular in the UK and Asia, but are a lesser known brand in the states due to a screw up by their marketing team a few years back. I use a pair of older 9.6's for a 2 channel setup and they are pretty awesome for the price. You can get a Pioneer SC-1222-K for around $600, or if you don't mind used an SC-07, SC-25, SC27, SC-35, SC-37 can also be had for around $600 and will get you much higher quality(better dacs, Bang and Olufsen ICE Power modules, as opposed to proprietary Pioneer class-D), albeit older receiver. I'm only recommending Pioneer because they have the most powerful amps, dollar for dollar, and are capable of handling 4-ohm nominal speakers (Wharfedales are 6-ohm). Sell your Denon for $150-$200. Total out of pocket cost~ $1397-$1447.

Option #2: Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 SE pair, CMT-340 SE center, CBM 170 SE pair $1216 shipped. Use your current receiver.

If you can sell your BIC speakers, option 2 would probably put you under $1000 total out of pocket and option 1 $200 more than that....
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Nice looking room you have there. Here are my 2 quick picks in that price range. If you listen to music and like warmer sound, option #1 would be better. Less $ for the speakers, as they just got discontinued, but your receiver will struggle to reach higher volumes. If you want to keep your receiver and save some cash and want great HT sound option 2 is a great choice based on how frequently they're recommended around here. But I;ve never heard them.

Option #1: If you could get your hands on a more powerful receiver somehow (hear me out), I would recommend 2 pairs of Wharfedale DIamond 10.1 and a 10.CS Center. That will put you right at $997 from Music Direct with free shipping. Wharfedale Diamonds sound warm but clear with an awesome, lush midrange. Very smooth, non-fatiguing sound. They are very,very popular in the UK and Asia, but are a lesser known brand in the states due to a screw up by their marketing team a few years back. I use a pair of older 9.6's for a 2 channel setup and they are pretty awesome for the price. You can get a Pioneer SC-1222-K for around $600, or if you don't mind used an SC-07, SC-25, SC27, SC-35, SC-37 can also be had for around $600 and will get you much higher quality(better dacs, Bang and Olufsen ICE Power modules, as opposed to proprietary Pioneer class-D), albeit older receiver. I'm only recommending Pioneer because they have the most powerful amps, dollar for dollar, and are capable of handling 4-ohm nominal speakers (Wharfedales are 6-ohm). Sell your Denon for $150-$200. Total out of pocket cost~ $1397-$1447.

Option #2: Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 SE pair, CMT-340 SE center, CBM 170 SE pair $1216 shipped. Use your current receiver.

If you can sell your BIC speakers, option 2 would probably put you under $1000 total out of pocket and option 1 $200 more than that....

I do have a buyer for everything, so that is the only reason I am considering buying something else. I will look into everything you've mentioned. Option #1 sounds what I'm looking for sound wise.
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Well I did take a look at your recommendations, since the Wharfedale Diamonds have an 86db sensitivity rating, would my amp just not get much volume out of them?

I was also really hoping to get towers again though.
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With towers, you will always get less quality for the $. Your receiver will power the speakers. Any amp can handle any speaker to a certain volume. But, if you listen loud, your receiver will clip, risking damage to your speakers. I've clipped my Pioneer Elite VSX-23 before with a pair of Wharfedale 9.6 and a 10.cm center. That receiver was more powerful than your Denon and the speakers were of higher sensitivity than the 10.1. Proceed with caution if you want to keep your receiver.

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