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I have AX2s (now retired to my garage) from the early 1990s, still in pristine condition. They sounded superb for over 20 years & are still on Axiom's 'Lifetime Warranty' - but they refused to break, ha!

htpcforever: The latest Axiom Newsletter that came today reveals that they have developed a new model ceiling speaker for the Atmos using M3 drivers - not reflective though. I kinda wonder about reflective designs:

http://axiomaudio.com/m3-in-ceiling-...n=July2014#t-0

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Very nice! Too bad I do not have the money to buy four of these while they are cheaper.
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I wonder how well the M0 on walls would work as on ceiling speakers - I do not want to cut into my ceiling and break the sound silencing barrier.
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Hey guys, I have some setup questions in regards to my Pioneer SC-75 and Axiom Audio Speakers. My speaker setup is 7.1.


Front Towers - Axiom Audio M60 Towers
Center - Axiom Audio VP-150
Surrounds - Axiom Audio QS8 Surrounds
Rears - Polk Audio satellites
Subwoofer - SVS PB-12 Ultra


I recently changed the settings on my sub. I went ahead and sealed all three ports on the front and chose the "sealed mode" in the menu on the subwoofer itself. I like a more deep, clean bass as opposed to a loud, shake the whole house boomy bass. I re-ran MCACC and remembered there were some setup questions I wasn't 100% sure of. I will list them below


Pre Calibration Menu

1.a Full Auto MCACC


Speaker System - 7.1ch + ZONE 2
EQ Type - Symmetry
MCACC - M1. MEMORY 1 (I understand this is just for multiple pre-sets)
THX Speaker - No

A few questions about the speakers. I've ran the MCACC different times and it always sets the Fronts and Center to Large. I always change it back to small because I have a very capable subwoofer. I hope that's right. It sets the crossover for the speakers at 100hz but I recently changed to 80hz to see if I notice a difference. Is that a good setting? Lastly, there's an option on my Reciever to set the speakers for THX. I've always kept it off but I didn't know if these were THX Speakers and whether or not the option would even make a difference. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

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I'm not familiar with MCACC; however, I calibrate my Axiom system with my Denon's Audyssey.

It hears my M22s L & R & VP160 CC all at 40 Hz & sets them correctly to 'small'. Prevailing wisdom is to manually set the L & R & CC to 'small' & the 'xovers' to 80Hz if you are using a decent sub, which you definitely are. Why it sets your M60s to 100 Hz is a bit of a mystery because it should be much lower.

I have just acquired a pair of High Gloss Rosewood EP800V3 subs from Axiom's Refurb Store. What a pair of magnificent beasts - the cabinetry is a work of art. Even with them set by Audyssey (without running them hot at all), there is so much clean LFE produced by them in my medium size room that I'm fearing wall/ceiling damage at my normal -10 Db listening level. It might be wise for me to turn the MV to -15 Db I guess...

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Identical across the front

I ended up trying 7.0 with the center set as large in the AVR. I was pleasantly surprised by the difference. It seems to plant the center as the main operating tower while the left and right step back into an ambiance and panning roles. It works quite nicely in our room.
You might want to try it out yourself.
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I actually cross my VP160 at 60 Hz that might be somewhat similar (but more subtly) to what you are doing with yours set to 'large'.

We watched 'Tron Legacy' Blu Ray last night. Even at -15 Db there was brutal LFE from the 800s - often way too much for extended periods to the point of annoyance IMO...

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LFE from the 800s

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The 800's would be over kill. I like the idea.

Edit: removed extreme as it probably would be perfect

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Yup, it is nice to finally have overkill capability in my HT system.

The problem is now trying to figure out how to control & tame it, ha!

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Location and volume.

I find my DVD copy of U-571 is a great set up film. If you can get it natural during depth charges you're laughing.
The BD version I own doesn't seem to have the same detail/clarity/umph.
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I did it, sort of...
I moved the main seats and the sides surrounds back 2'(didn't gain another row) and kept the larger screen size. I had it sounding really nice after but still not quite there.
Rear surrounds got turned off tonight. The side surrounds are pretty close to them now.
I need some ceiling mounts for the QS4's so I can hang a pair (in storage) below the screens top member for front heights.
The ceiling mounts work on the M2's just in case the QS4's aren't quite right.

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I see Axiom audio is having a sale where you can get 20% back in credit for your purchase through the end of August. The credit is supposed to be emailed to you before the end of September, And the credit can be used between OCtober 1st and December 31st.

I plan on getting a pair of M3 v4 Bookshelf speakers to use for Front Heights with my circa 2008 SVS 7.1 speaker system. I decided on these because they are capable of easily being mounted on a wall, not too big, not too heavy, and aren't too expensive. So I can get the M3 speakers now. And then use the 20% credit in October to get the metal brackets to hang the speakers on the wall.

I figure since my Denon 4520 has nine channels of amplification I might as well put them all to use. Hopefully I have no issues. I got a refurb 4520 over a month ago but never checked out those extra two channels. Prior to that I had a Denon 3808 so I never even considered going above a 7.1 system. Hopefully the Axiom M3 speakers will integrate well into the system for Front Heights.

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I like the idea of using the M3 for heights.
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I see Axiom audio is having a sale where you can get 20% back in credit for your purchase through the end of August. The credit is supposed to be emailed to you before the end of September, And the credit can be used between OCtober 1st and December 31st.

I plan on getting a pair of M3 v4 Bookshelf speakers to use for Front Heights with my circa 2008 SVS 7.1 speaker system. I decided on these because they are capable of easily being mounted on a wall, not too big, not too heavy, and aren't too expensive. So I can get the M3 speakers now. And then use the 20% credit in October to get the metal brackets to hang the speakers on the wall.

I figure since my Denon 4520 has nine channels of amplification I might as well put them all to use. Hopefully I have no issues. I got a refurb 4520 over a month ago but never checked out those extra two channels. Prior to that I had a Denon 3808 so I never even considered going above a 7.1 system. Hopefully the Axiom M3 speakers will integrate well into the system for Front Heights.
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I like the idea of using the M3 for heights.

Ha, good timing. I was just coming here to ask a question about which ones to use for front heights.

I'm looking at possibly going with a pair of M80's, and the VP150 for L/C/R. Awaiting delivery of a new Yamaha RX-A3040, and use an Emotiva XPA-3 (Gen 1) for those channels anyway.

I currently have a 7.1 system with front heights (Boston Acoustics), where the front heights are full-sized bookshelves, similar to the M2's. Would the M3's be better for front heights/presence? Thought about the on-wall versions, but these mount flush and I toe-in a bit to aim them at the sweet spot.

My current speakers use OmniMount 20's, which "should" hold either M2 or M3, but not sure about the connectability; I see Axiom has mounts which hold up to 40lbs.

Would the QS4's be any good for front presence?

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I don't know about front presence usage; however, they sure work well as surrounds & come with powered wall mounts as well - really easy to place on walls.

See my post in your other thread.

May I suggest that you join the Axiom Forum at their website where you can access lots of brand expertise...

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I don't know about front presence usage; however, they sure work well as surrounds & come with powered wall mounts as well - really easy to place on walls.

See my post in your other thread.

May I suggest that you join the Axiom Forum at their website where you can access lots of brand expertise...

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Thanks for your commentary (both threads) - I did just join the Axiom boards and will begin poking around there as well.

I have bipole surrounds (of another brand) which are relatively new and quite nice performers. I'm not sure bipole/dipole/quadpole speakers are recommended for front height/presence anyway, but just curious whether anyone might be using them this way.

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I'm looking at possibly going with a pair of M80's, and the VP150 for L/C/R.
I own 2 M80's and a VP150 (and two QS8's) and while I really like my VP150, if I had the option of the VP160 when I purchased my speakers, I would have chosen the VP160 over the VP150.

Just make sure the speaker dimensions will work for your center channel.

BTY, my VP150 sounds MUCH better after having my speakers professionally calibrated.
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Anyone have any issues with Customs in the US when having their Axiom speakers shipped? Mine seem to be held in a warehouse in New York for some reason. UPS said there was some issue and Customs is holding it. It has been sitting there since Thursday. And they say they can't give me an estimated delivery date until the customs issue gets worked out.

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I like the idea of using the M3 for heights.
I am currently using M0s for heights, but will eventually change them to M2s (M3s are just too big to fit where I have them placed). They work well.

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'Customs' on both sides of our borders work in mysterious ways - they will not be rushed.

Patience is required...

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I own 2 M80's and a VP150 (and two QS8's) and while I really like my VP150, if I had the option of the VP160 when I purchased my speakers, I would have chosen the VP160 over the VP150.

Just make sure the speaker dimensions will work for your center channel.

BTY, my VP150 sounds MUCH better after having my speakers professionally calibrated.

Thanks. I'm hard-capped at the size of the VP150. It has to fit in the cabinet below the TV, and the VP160 and VP180 are just too big.

I love it when a [HT] plan comes together!
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Wow! My speakers are finally on the way after sitting in a warehouse in New York for around a week. Hopefully Customs didn't do anything to damage the speakers.

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Wow! My speakers are finally on the way after sitting in a warehouse in New York for around a week. Hopefully Customs didn't do anything to damage the speakers.
They just broke them in for you.
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I love it when a plan comes together.
We fit 2 more seats, didn't touch the front sound stage and its all dialed in so beautifly.
I heard a first today...a bullet whip.
I'm a big fan of realism and between the whip and the amazing/accurate detail in the Willys jeeps idle I'd call it a success.
Now to leave it alone for a while...
Did I mention I pick up some 3d glasses tomorrow (today now I guess).

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They just broke them in for you.

Unfortunately someone did break them. Both speakers were damaged. They both had damage to the housing where the wood split and you could see a sliver of the brown wood in cracks of the black surface. Then one had a dented top corner. And the other speaker had the cover of the tweeter off and the tweeter was dented in a couple of spots. Axiom was good about it though. They told me to keep them for now and try them out and that they would ship out a replacement pair. And that they would give me an RMA to send them back after I get the replacement speakers.

So at least the speakers work. But the one with the dented tweeter does sound a little different. But once I did the Audyssey MultEQ XT32 calibration it did sound better. The M3v4 speakers should work well for my front heights. Although right now they are two feet behind my main speakers and only one foot higher. But even at that level they seem to add a decent amount to the front sound stage. So once I get my replacement speakers and get my 20% credit coupon from my original purchase where they had a special. I will order the Wall mount brackets for the M3 speakers so I can place them in their permanent position.

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Unfortunately someone did break them. Both speakers were damaged. They both had damage to the housing where the wood split and you could see a sliver of the brown wood in cracks of the black surface. Then one had a dented top corner. And the other speaker had the cover of the tweeter off and the tweeter was dented in a couple of spots. Axiom was good about it though. They told me to keep them for now and try them out and that they would ship out a replacement pair. And that they would give me an RMA to send them back after I get the replacement speakers.

So at least the speakers work. But the one with the dented tweeter does sound a little different. But once I did the Audyssey MultEQ XT32 calibration it did sound better. The M3v4 speakers should work well for my front heights. Although right now they are two feet behind my main speakers and only one foot higher. But even at that level they seem to add a decent amount to the front sound stage. So once I get my replacement speakers and get my 20% credit coupon from my original purchase where they had a special. I will order the Wall mount brackets for the M3 speakers so I can place them in their permanent position.
That sucks.
Good on Axiom for pushing forward before receiving the damaged units.
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I own 2 M80's and a VP150 (and two QS8's) and while I really like my VP150, if I had the option of the VP160 when I purchased my speakers, I would have chosen the VP160 over the VP150.

Just make sure the speaker dimensions will work for your center channel.

BTY, my VP150 sounds MUCH better after having my speakers professionally calibrated.

I would like to expand on my comment. I am guessing that the VP150 is not to blame on the "so so sound" I had until I had my system professionally calibrated.


I never listened to the speakers "flat", I ran the Pioneer MCACC, with the included Mic. I must have ran that MCACC dozens of times, and just trusted the MCACC to make the correct settings.


In looking how Jeff calibrated my speakers, while he did make some adjustments, the adjustments are relatively minor. (compared to "flat").


I am very happy with all 5 of my Axiom speakers now.
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