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post #541 of 555 Old 09-03-2016, 09:20 PM
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I'll give it a shot. Thanks!!!!

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Hey guys. I currently have a 7.1.4 Dolby Atmos and DTS-X setup. My question is in regards to expert opinions on the setting s for my speakers.
No expert here, but I have some experience. I use 80Hz sub crossover and set all speakers without woofers as small. Specifically, I'm 5.2.2, with Axiom M80, VP180, M80 in front large), 3 subs, and small side surrounds QS8s, top fronts CSW.

My theory is that speakers and accompanying equipment are designed around this default 80Hz crossover and small surrounds setup. So that's what we should use. That's probably the setting the engineers used when they were designing the internal speaker crossovers.

I went through a period of trying to avoid frequency holes by setting crossovers appropriately, but I could never get a better sound that way.
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Show us your axiom system greglee!

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Show us your axiom system greglee!
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subs: EP500          JBLxx      Sonyxx
top/height:    CSW300        CSW300  (not Axiom)
front:           M80   VP180  M80
wide:       M22                        M22
side:   QS8               me                 QS8
back:     QS8                           QS8
But my current AVR does not power the front wide or back surround speakers.

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subs: EP500          JBLxx      Sonyxx
top/height:    CSW300        CSW300  (not Axiom)
front:           M80   VP180  M80
wide:       M22                        M22
side:   QS8               me                 QS8
back:     QS8                           QS8
But my current AVR does not power the front wide or back surround speakers.
I was hoping for pics! Thats a lot of speakers!

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For spl meter I use radio shack brand. The one I have is analog like this. Cost $39 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/produc...FYs9gQod2tYAPg

You will do this from your main listening position and hold the meter ear level and microphone angled 45 degrees to ceiling (not pointing at speakers) and it will remain this position the whole time. Ideally you sit in middle of tv and point meter towards ceiling at 45 degrees and HOLD it there and don't move. Turn on the meter and put it on C weighting and SLOW response and turn the level to 75 db reading. Now turn the volume up on your AVR during the test tones at the main speakers til it reaches 75 db on the meter itself (do not touch avr volume knob again after this point). Memorize the volume number on AVR (this is where you most likely will be using for movie playback). The needle moves on the meter and use your remote on avr and raise db up or down for each speaker level so it reaches 75db. If its over 75 db then turn down speaker level for that speaker a db or two. While holding still for test tones every speaker should be at exact reading as possible 75db on meter except for the sub which you can do last. For the sub, do the exact same thing but keep sub level on avr at "0" and just use svs amp to turn up til you read 85db on meter while in same position (you may have to get up to adjust and back to MLP a few times). All this does is get each speaker leveled matched so one speaker doesn't overpower the other and sound like director intended when you watch the movie. So while you're sitting and holding still and everything is quiet just run the test tones and each speaker should be 75db and sub at 85db. Then you're done! Feel free to adjust sub to your liking....if its too loud turn down sub at amp a little...if you want more turn it up a little. This process takes about 15 min overall.
Thanks again for your help here on the forums. I also sent you a pm about this. I bought the meter you suggested and I plan on running my speaker tests today when I get back. I've read over your instructions a couple times now and the only part I'm still having a question about is the level in supposed to set my AVR at while outputting test tones through the speakers.

I primarily run my volume levels while watching movies around -11 to -10 db. How exactly am I supposed to know which volume level to choose when using the test tones? Am I supposed to send the text tones from one of my main front speakers and adjust the volume until I get a 75db reading on the spl meter? If so, that confuses me because then I'm not sure if I'm supposed to increase or decrease the volume for the fronts because I'm testing it right where I'm supposed to at the 75db level.

I hope that didn't confuse you. Lol. Thanks for your help.

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Thanks again for your help here on the forums. I also sent you a pm about this. I bought the meter you suggested and I plan on running my speaker tests today when I get back. I've read over your instructions a couple times now and the only part I'm still having a question about is the level in supposed to set my AVR at while outputting test tones through the speakers.

I primarily run my volume levels while watching movies around -11 to -10 db. How exactly am I supposed to know which volume level to choose when using the test tones? Am I supposed to send the text tones from one of my main front speakers and adjust the volume until I get a 75db reading on the spl meter? If so, that confuses me because then I'm not sure if I'm supposed to increase or decrease the volume for the fronts because I'm testing it right where I'm supposed to at the 75db level.

I hope that didn't confuse you. Lol. Thanks for your help.
No worries, I sent you a PM as well in more detail. Good luck!

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I've had my modest Axiom setup since 2003 and I'm not planning on any changes other than a new OLED TV. I don't know why there isn't more interest in Axiom. My left F M22 is the wall mount version. It's great since it does not block the view when the TV is turned to the left, and we are in the kitchen. They play clean and loud.
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Sony 65"A1E, Marantz 7005 Pre, Rotel 5ch X 120w, Axiom & HSU sub.
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I've had my modest Axiom setup since 2003 and I'm not planning on any changes other than a new OLED TV. I don't know why there isn't more interest in Axiom. My left F M22 is the wall mount version. It's great since it does not block the view when the TV is turned to the left, and we are in the kitchen. They play clean and loud.
I've also had my axioms since 2003/2004. Not many people with axioms in this forum. Axioms don't get alot of love in here.

Theater: Sony 45es, 120 inch 16:9 screen, Panny BDT500, Rotel RMB-1075, Rotel RSP-1068, Klipsch RP-280F, RP-450C, RP-160M, SVS PB13 x 2, Monster Power Conditioner, GIK acoustic panels

TV Room: Panasonic 60" plasma, Integra DTR-30.3, Axiom Audio M60, VP150, QS8, EP500
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Love my Axiom M80's that I have owned since 2003 or so (V2).

Check out the Youtube video to see how complex the M80 design is:


Also very interesting, is that there are a LOT of speaker finishes available, both real wood, and vinyl veneer's.
Not a lot of speakers in this price range have this many options on finishes.

A solid speaker company, in the business for the long term.

When the US dollar was trading favorably compared to the Canadian Dollar, the Axiom's were a much better value to US citizens.

The issue is, that there are a lot of options in the price range of the Axiom M80's, that did not exist back then.

For instance, the M80's cost 1890.00 a pair, (1702.00 if you choose from their existing inventory) free shipping and no tax.

In that price range I would rather have a Philharmonic Slim (2200/pair) or a Ascend Acoustics Sierra Tower (1998 with the NrT tweeter).

But, if I were looking for value, the Emptek R55Ti Tower Speakers are 347.50 each! Wow! 700 bucks (shipping included) for a pair of towers. Never heard the R55Ti's, but they get lots of comments on AVS.

So, it is a very competitive market that the M80's are in.

But still, Axiom is a solid, serious speaker company, in the business for the long term.
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New Speakers from Axiom!

http://www.axiomaudio.com/new?utm_so...anuary_10_2017

To quote from their e-mail:
We've engineered floorstanding performance into our bookshelf and surround speakers for maximum sound quality
Today we are proud to introduce the M5HP bookshelf speaker and the QS10HP surround speaker. These small-for-the-sound speakers have the bass extension, power handling, and overall output capabilities of a traditional floorstanding speaker. The M5HP is also available in an on-wall and in-wall configuration.
Pre-order between now and January 17 for the biggest savings.
For more details and special pre-order pricing click here
Shipping March 2017
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New Speakers from Axiom!

http://www.axiomaudio.com/new?utm_so...anuary_10_2017

To quote from their e-mail:
We've engineered floorstanding performance into our bookshelf and surround speakers for maximum sound quality
Today we are proud to introduce the M5HP bookshelf speaker and the QS10HP surround speaker. These small-for-the-sound speakers have the bass extension, power handling, and overall output capabilities of a traditional floorstanding speaker. The M5HP is also available in an on-wall and in-wall configuration.
Pre-order between now and January 17 for the biggest savings.
For more details and special pre-order pricing click here
Shipping March 2017
I saw that. Even look at their new QS speakers. Not much creativity there other than slapping on another driver. Seems like they don't really innovate new stuff, just add more drivers with same outdated look from 20 years ago and continue to increase prices. I've always liked my axioms since 2003 but after the upgrade bug recently, I have relocated it to a smaller room.

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TV Room: Panasonic 60" plasma, Integra DTR-30.3, Axiom Audio M60, VP150, QS8, EP500
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ereed, you are right about not much new. However, I still love my M22s from 2003. What else sounds better and is a better value? I like the look of my black center cup speakers [post 548] much better than the dull white that's currently produced.
Anyone replaced Axiom with something they like better?
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ereed, you are right about not much new. However, I still love my M22s from 2003. What else sounds better and is a better value? I like the look of my black center cup speakers [post 548] much better than the dull white that's currently produced.
Anyone replaced Axiom with something they like better?
I still enjoy my axioms and have it in another room as a small 5.1 with plasma tv. My theater room now (previously axiom) has new Klipsch RP line and I enjoy it alot more for movies. Axiom still sounds good, but the RP line gives me that cinema sound I'm looking for which is more dynamic sounding. But since I still like my axioms I found another room for them at tv setup.

Not trying to bash axiom here since I love my M60tis from 2004 but I feel like their current M60s looks EXACT the same but with updated drivers and I have a friend with v4 version and it sounds pretty much same as mine but slightly better, not double the price axiom charges now. So Axiom isn't best performance for the dollar anymore like they used to be. You also have a lot more competition that is cheaper than axiom and sound great these days. There wasn't many ID companies back then, now there are A LOT of them so you have more options. Would I buy axiom again? Not for the prices they charge these days. But will I keep mine I currently have? Absolutely since they sound great and for the price I paid back then. LOL

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I have a pair of QS8's and they work great for filling the back of the room, I bought them because the room was deep enough for a 7 channel setup, so I am using 5 with the QS8's in the rear. Would I buy Axiom again? Sure, for surrounds, comparing the QS8 to the Aperions in the front, they are excessively bright. The Front sound much more natural and balanced. I am not going to say Axiom is terrible, because they aren't, but that I am not a huge fan of the tonal balance. When I move out of the apartment, and have a dedicated HT room, I will likely move to 7 channel and replace the QS8's with their Aperion counterparts.
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