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Planning on using a 7.2 HSU system for my HT. Their bookshelf speakers around around $185 each shipped, so I am wondering if there is something better for the price.
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Might want to look into the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE and Arx A1b. Both are popular alternatives.

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Might want to look into the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE and Arx A1b. Both are popular alternatives.

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You might look at CHT's new offering, the M-1 (http://www.chasehometheater.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=28&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=679&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=149), but be aware that it must be used with a subwoofer.

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You might look at CHT's new offering, the M-1 (http://www.chasehometheater.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=28&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=679&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=149), but be aware that it must be used with a subwoofer.
Thanks, these look good. I plan on using a 7.2 setup. Would like to keep it under $2000 for the 7.2 system for my HT, but it doesn't look like its possible with two good subs
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How big is your room in cubic feet? The size of the room will definitely determine what subs you need, and it can affect your speaker choice.

Also, is this mainly HT? Music? Gaming? What percentage of each?

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Hey blee, get a good front stage, but you don't need to spend a lot on the surrounds. Here are some inexpensive bookshelfs that do just fine as surrounds: Infinity Primus p163. Four of them will cost you less than $350 shipped. They are good speakers, and make for a terrific surround sound stage.
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Shadyj,

So, its just best to get a good front stage of bookshelf speakers or towers. I have been taking your advice through the months. My house will be built around next march or April, so I have another year to research. I been told that its best to get bookshelf speakers, so I'm going that route
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You've stated that your main focus is HT and you plan on gettting 2 subs. This means that you dont need speakers that have very low frequency responses because the subs will take care of that. This is why bookshelves are recommeded. If you plan on doing a lot of 2.0 channel music listening then it would be worth investing quite a bit more into your l/r. Look at dual Svs pb1000 for subs. They would rock your room. If those are too expensive consider dual klipsch rw12d.
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You've stated that your main focus is HT and you plan on gettting 2 subs. This means that you dont need speakers that have very low frequency responses because the subs will take care of that. This is why bookshelves are recommeded. If you plan on doing a lot of 2.0 channel music listening then it would be worth investing quite a bit more into your l/r. Look at dual Svs pb1000 for subs. They would rock your room. If those are expensive consider dual klipsch rw12d.
I was looking at the SVS subs, but someone told me that hsu subs were better. I planned on using the SVS bookshelf speakers too at first, along with the SVS subs.
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Also consider HTD level three for your main/ surround speakers. Similar value to the HSU's.
As far as subs go, SVS , PSA, HSU, Rythmik. All great choices.. Your room dimensions, WAF , etc are vital to making a sub choice!
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Not sure if you're interested in the Pioneer SP-SB22-LR but they are $77/pair at Frys. It shows as $129.99/pair on Frys.com but the shelf tag in store and in the online flyer says $77.

These Pioneer speakers, designed by Andrew Jones, have received excellent reviews for the money.
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I was looking at the SVS subs, but someone told me that hsu subs were better.

Yes. There are some HSU owners on here who will tell you they are better than any other sub.
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As far as subs go, SVS , PSA, HSU, Rythmik. All great choices.. Your room dimensions, WAF , etc are vital to making a sub choice!

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All of these ID manufacturers make great subs. Which is probably best for you depends on those factors, your listening preferences, etc.

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Also consider HTD level three for your main/ surround speakers. Similar value to the HSU's.
As far as subs go, SVS , PSA, HSU, Rythmik. All great choices.. Your room dimensions, WAF , etc are vital to making a sub choice!
Cheers, Mac
Love to see other choices so I can do more research. Thanks. I'm building a house, so I'm going to have a kind of small HT room. I'm looking at 16ft by 14 with 8ft high ceilings. I have to admit, I'm not an audiophile. I went to see an avs member HT and his audio setup blew me away. Felt like I was in the movie with the excellent sound. Can't wait to have ny own
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Not sure if you're interested in the Pioneer SP-SB22-LR but they are $77/pair at Frys. It shows as $129.99/pair on Frys.com but the shelf tag in store and in the online flyer says $77.

These Pioneer speakers, designed by Andrew Jones, have received excellent reviews for the money.
Thanks
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Shadyj,

So, its just best to get a good front stage of bookshelf speakers or towers. I have been taking your advice through the months. My house will be built around next march or April, so I have another year to research. I been told that its best to get bookshelf speakers, so I'm going that route

Blee, check out these videosecu mounts, they are only $35, they are very good for mounting surrounds, but the price fluctuates somewhat. They are a clone of the highly-regarded AM40 Pinpoint mounts, but the AM40s cost twice as much. They are perfect for holding up surround speakers. As for the front stage, on a budget the best thing to do is get a bookshelf speaker front stage, even for the center channel. Horizontal center channels, sometimes called toppled MTMs, are a compromise for entertainment shelfs. It is not an inherently better design for a center. Since you are in the planning stages, you might envision a setup that can accommodate a ordinary bookshelf speaker for a center. It will make for a consistent front soundstage and it will be less expensive.
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Might want to look into the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE and Arx A1b. Both are popular alternatives.

+1 Also, I think both vendors (Ascend and AudioInsider) will sell a single for use as a center.
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How do you determine the best bookshelf? What do you look for?
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Best method: read lots of testimonials and reviews and make your best educated guess on two brands. Order/buy one pair of each and do an in home listening demo. Let 'em break in for a few days, make your decision, and return one pair. Definitely worth it to return ship one pair if you are building a 7.2 system. Your listening preferences and how they sound in your room will be THE biggest factor in what you like the best.

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Might want to look into the Ascend Acoustics CBM-170 SE and Arx A1b. Both are popular alternatives.

+1 Also, I think both vendors (Ascend and AudioInsider) will sell a single for use as a center.

Yes, although with Ascend you may want to tell them explicitly that you want a vertically-oriented CBM-170 SE center (if that's what you want), or else they'll send you a horizontally-oriented one. The only difference is where the company logo is affixed to the fabric grille, but if you plan to use the grille, then I imagine that you'd want three identical speakers across the front (like I have--looks kind of cool, actually). If you won't be using the grille, then I guess it wouldn't matter (except perhaps in the future). You could also ask them to leave the logo off entirely and give them to you separately for you to affix wherever you want.
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Best method: read lots of testimonials and reviews and make your best educated guess on two brands. Order/buy one pair of each and do an in home listening demo. Let 'em break in for a few days, make your decision, and return one pair. Definitely worth it to return ship one pair if you are building a 7.2 system. Your listening preferences and how they sound in your room will be THE biggest factor in what you like the best.

Do this, and be sure to ask Ascend for the following:
http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/purchase/expurchplan.html

These speakers are close in overall quality but nonetheless sound quite different, so this should help you figure out which sounds best according your preferences, if anything. Their cost for the whole system would be similar, so that's not really an issue. The CBM-170 SE will sound louder at the same volume setting due to its greater efficiency, so be sure to match their actual volumes when comparing, in order to be fair; note, however, that efficiency is itself an advantage in terms of amplifier headroom and reduced power compression.

To start you off, here is a comparative review (read padgman1's posts):
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1446006/ascend-acoustics-cbm-170-se-vs-arx-a1b/0_100
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As far as subs go, SVS , PSA, HSU, Rythmik. All great choices.. Your room dimensions, WAF , etc are vital to making a sub choice!

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