Just adding a sub. I had a problem with the mini dsp, when i left the sub settings at the same volume, and reran mcacc with the new eq, it set the sub at +8 coming from +1 without the dsp. I noticed with this +8 on a certain low freq sound in black ops 2, emp grenade, the sub would skip a beat and bottom out. I know the sub is much more capable so i took off the dsp and that fixed it. I dont know why the dsp sucks so much volume and the avr makes up for it, but no way should it be bottoming out at the volume it was at. I ordered a usb mic, a umik 1, so i can really get a reliable reading on whats going on. Everything else sounded proper with the dsp, i believe the bass levels were at a correct volume to blend with the speakers, and usually im pretty good at getting this right.