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I know right off the bat that sounds dumb. Of course get the sub right? Well see it's not that easy. I already have a sub at home which I believe is a fairly nice sub that might be just a little dated, so maybe you could help me out?

The Sub I have at home is a Boston PV700. I believe it is a 200w sub.

So would I be better off saving the money and buying just the 5.0 Take Classic and pairing it with my Boston PV700 subwoofer...

Or...

Should I buy the Take Classic 5.1 system and not use my sub that I already have?

It would save me some money to buy the 5.0 package, but if thats a horrible decision to pair it with the PV700 then I won't. I'm the novice here and most of you guys are the experts, so please let me know.

Also what are your thoughts on the Monoprice 9774's? Cnet says they are practically replicas of the Energy Take Classic 5.1's just with a different logo. How about those?

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I would take the 12" PV700 over the 8" Energy Subwoofer. Save your money and just get the 5.0 setup. You should be able to get the 5.0 package for $200 or less. Crutchfield has it for $199 right now.
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QSA9DoG1dxQ/p_732TAKE50/Energy-Take-Classic-5-0.html


As far as the Monoprice speakers the review does say they're the same as the Take Classics so you can save even more money. I think the Monoprice speakers only have a 1 year warranty though. Energy is 5 years. Remember you have to pay shipping on the Monoprice set which could add another $40-50 to the price.

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The Boston sub is better and number of watts the amp is rated for, especially without an actual basis for the rating, isn't very meaningful on its own.

I'd get better satellite speakers personally (and from experience, I do own a 5.1 Take set). What's your budget? What type of use...movies...music? Listening levels? Size of room?

The Takes are a reasonable speaker for a small room for low to moderate listening levels, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed them until I got something better smile.gif

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Okay so let me give you guys my information here, sorry!

My room is (it's small, it's a small bedroom not a entertainment room, but it's the only place that is mine to fully customize as I'm only 16) 106in Wide x 120in Long x 8ft tall ceilings.

As for my listening tastes, I'm all over. I love to watch movies, so bass for action is needed along with good sounding voice (I'm sure theres a name for that in av world but I'm just getting into home theater, although I'm great with tech so I should pick up on this) for sports and dialogue of movies. Then music taste is wide too. I like alternative indie music that goes light on bass and hits those high notes, but I equally and honestly love the hard hitting rap just as much. I know weird music choices but it's what I am tongue.gif

I hope that helped with giving you a bit more information.

oh and my budget for Speakers and Receiver combined is right around $800. So if you have anything that you think would be so much more amazingly better but excedes that let me know still but I'd like to stick with that if I can. Mainly because it's what I've got right now. Trust me I want to spend loads of money on this, but don't have the funds.
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Also since you've now determined my PV700 is the better sub to go with than most package subs, what about the Polk Tl-150 speakers?

I'm a novice and don't no good from bad here except by reading reviews, so really I'm going to take what you tell me as my #1 deciding factor here. Which speaker sets do you guys think I should get? They don't have to be anything I even named. I'm just looking for help here!

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If you need to know anything else about my setup/soon to be setup ask me. Now that I started looking for speaker packages without subs I'm finding tons. So really I'm looking for help from you guys! I don't care what brand they are or if I havent mentioned them in here, I just want to know which speakers you think I should get.
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Also since you've now determined my PV700 is the better sub to go with than most package subs, what about the Polk Tl-150 speakers?

I'm a novice and don't no good from bad here except by reading reviews, so really I'm going to take what you tell me as my #1 deciding factor here. Which speaker sets do you guys think I should get? They don't have to be anything I even named. I'm just looking for help here!

Thank you

Hold on there pardner, I only said that your current sub is a better sub than the Energy ESW8 (the one that comes with the Take package). Although generally I'd shop for a stand-alone sub. Since you do have a decent sub now I'd put your money towards speakers. Along those lines, what's your current avr and what does it lack that you'd like to have?

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I currently don't have receiver.
Here's what I'm considering:
-Sony-STRDN1030
-Yamaha RX-V573,575,673,675,773 (All depending on Speaker Receiver budget balance)
- Denon AVR-E400, AVR-1913, and possibly the AVR-2113CI

I need help in the area of choosing a receiver too and balancing the right price of a receiver with the right price of speakers and getting the best outcome.

I listed what I like to listen to earlier, but I'm not quite sure what else you are asking? I am a big movie as well as music listener. So I want something that will sound good with both. I also found the Jamo S 426 hsc 3's for incredibly cheap and they seem to be good. And then I saw the Fluance AV-HTB 5's.

So really I am at a loss with what speakers and receiver to choose and how to balance which to pay more for and such. I have an $800 budget, well I think it might be $815 but I didn't think $15 would get me very far haha. Sorry I am so new to the home theater area!
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I needed to post something to be able to add a signature. Tl;dr post, but i say keep sub. Buy klipsch for the rest.

Panasonic 65VT30 65" 3D Plasma
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Sorry, what? haha
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Just curious on the avr. What I meant by what are you looking for features is there anything in particular you want in the avr? Will 5.1 suffice for you? Any particular internet capabilities, Airplay, connectivity features, that sort of thing. I haven't shopped for an AVR in a while but don't think you should probably spend more than $300, maybe less. Look at accessories4less.com as they sell refurbs with warranties. Speakers are where the big differences are. Do you need small bookshelf speakers? Can you fit front towers? Some of the sets are fine, but for $500-600 your choices can open up a bit. You might look at the Andrew Jones Pioneer series, Cambridge Audio S30/S50 combo, maybe contact Ascend Acoustics and see what they can do for you on set of b-stock HTM200SEs. The latter two might push your budget, though.

I'm not familiar with the Fluance or Jamo sets in any case. Did you do some searching here on the forums? This ground is covered frequently.

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Oh okay!
My needs in the avr are:
-Network Capability
-Airplay (So no Onkyo)
-7.1ch (for speaker expansion or another zone)

Wants:
-Wifi (either built in or adapter included/for cheap)
- Spotify app (silly but I like it, not needed though)

I honestly don't think I can fit my receiver in the 300 budget range. Not with my needs of a 7.1 with network.

As for speakers I'm fairly flexible. I could fit towers which sounds like they would give better sound.
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The Denon 1913 is 329.99 with free shipping now at accessories4less. Not an apple fan myself, so even had to look up airplay. Towers are part of the Pioneer set, and they're pretty well regarded.

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Oh okay!
My needs in the avr are:
-Network Capability
-Airplay (So no Onkyo)
-7.1ch (for speaker expansion or another zone)

Wants:
-Wifi (either built in or adapter included/for cheap)
- Spotify app (silly but I like it, not needed though)

I honestly don't think I can fit my receiver in the 300 budget range. Not with my needs of a 7.1 with network.

As for speakers I'm fairly flexible. I could fit towers which sounds like they would give better sound.

Sure you can. Pioneer VSX-1022 is $250 or so and is 7.1, networking and has Airplay.
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-VSX-1022-K-7-Channel-Receiver-Network/dp/B007O5ATC8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364357966&sr=8-1&keywords=Pioneer+vsx-1022

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Would you guys say that accessories4less is trustable? And am I at a disadvantage by getting a refurbished unit?
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Just search around the forums, a4less is pretty well regarded. It comes with a factory 1 year warranty.

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