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I had asked in the receivers there if I could use my existing HTIB speakers and sub with the pioneer receiver and did not get much response. So I am asking the same question in the dedicated speakers thread

The model number for my HTIB is
Panasonic - SA-PT670

I am happy with the HTIB I have but since I was going to buy a receiver anyways and the deal Costco pioneer is a good deal, I might as well buy it now. However, it will force me to but speakers and subs since I can't use my HTIB speakers or can I?

If I can't then I need suggestion on a budget speakers and if I can then I can use those HTIB speakers for another year or so before I upgrade.

here is the specification I found about my HTIB speaker and subs.

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I think you can use the center speaker. I would not use the fronts and surround with a 3 ohms impedance.
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Can the sub be used?

Alos, did some search and found quiet a few people talking about Pioneer AJ speakers?

Can someone tell how they are? and which model no.? also, a quick amazon search and I see there are floor standing and bookshelves? which ones to buy if I do go with these.

Do any of the B&M stores carry these speakers to test/listen.
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Can your htib speakers be used? Probably...will they sound like decent stand alones!? No...
How much are you willing to spend?
And yes, although I am not one of them, many people really like the aj pioneer speaker, for the buck. I just wasn't impressed when I heard them...

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
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The Pioneer speakers are SP-BS22-LR. They are designed by Andrew Jones (hence the AJ). There are a million threads comparing them and reviewing them just search for them.

Best Buy carries them often. Listen to both the floor standing and the bookshelves. Most popular reason to choose floor standing is either a lack of WAF or the lack of a Subwoofer. Typically bookshelves cannot produce enough bass to satisfy the needs of a movie experiance. However if you have a sub you will cross the fronts over at 80hz or so anyway so you wont really gain much from floor standing.

The sub from the set is a passive unit meaning that the receiver powers the sub... this is typically viewed as less than optimal. If the COSTCO receiver you refer to has a passive sub option (speaker terminals that say SUB) then you can still use it... but it probably has LFE or Sub out (an RCA connection) in which case you need a new sub.

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The receiver is Pioneer sc-1522k, how do I find out if it has LFE or sub out?
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Let me start by saying, very nice receiver. However, your HTIB speakers have got to go. If they are 3 ohm speakers you could damage your receiver. Besides, it would be like putting a ribbon on a turd (no offense). If you are going to invest that much in a receiver you might as well go all the way and get some decent speakers. Check out Craigslist, just stay away from any "white van" speaker sets. And from what I saw on that receiver, its time to buy a powered sub. Keep us posted, I'd love to see what you put together in the end.
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Check speakers like Klipsch, Ascend, Martin Logan...
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The receiver is Pioneer sc-1522k, how do I find out if it has LFE or sub out?

It definitely has a subwoofer output, actually has two.

You dont want to use those poor speakers with such a nice receiver. Please buy some new speakers so you can fully appreciate your system!

Best Buy carries the Pioneer towers, bookshelf and center speakers. I think the towers are currently on sale for $86 each. If you have a Fry's close by then they have them for $77 each.

This will be a HUGE upgrade over your current speakers.

FS-52 speakers
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+5-1/4%26%2334%3B+Floor+Speaker+(Each)/5086937.p?id=1218610014331&skuId=5086937&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=8

C22 center speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+Dual+4%22+Center-Channel+Speaker/5086891.p?id=1218610015437&skuId=5086891&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=9

BS22 bookshelf speakers
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+4%26%2334%3B+Bookshelf+Speakers+(Pair)/5086955.p?id=1218610014045&skuId=5086955&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=1

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It definitely has a subwoofer output, actually has two.

You dont want to use those poor speakers with such a nice receiver. Please buy some new speakers so you can fully appreciate your system!

Best Buy carries the Pioneer towers, bookshelf and center speakers. I think the towers are currently on sale for $86 each. If you have a Fry's close by then they have them for $77 each.

This will be a HUGE upgrade over your current speakers.

FS-52 speakers
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+5-1/4%26%2334%3B+Floor+Speaker+(Each)/5086937.p?id=1218610014331&skuId=5086937&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=8

C22 center speaker
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+Dual+4%22+Center-Channel+Speaker/5086891.p?id=1218610015437&skuId=5086891&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=9

BS22 bookshelf speakers
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer+-+4%26%2334%3B+Bookshelf+Speakers+(Pair)/5086955.p?id=1218610014045&skuId=5086955&st=pioneer speakers&cp=1&lp=1[/quote


Should I buy like what you guys mentioned different speakers and sub or should I get something like the Klipsch 5.1 system which I saw was for $599. (any other cheaper 5.1 recommendation)

Is there any pros and cons between the two types.

Or I can only get the Floor standing and make it a 2.1 for now and buy the other stuff later.

What is the difference between the bookshelves and the floorstanding?
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You need to go audition some speakers, and then you'll know the difference between bookshelf and floor standing speakers and passive and powered subs. Go find out for yourself and listen to what your ears tell you. Blindly relying off info you get off of this forum is is going to get you a set of speakers that sounds good to that guy or that guy but not necessarily you. Have you sat down to listen to any speakers on your own yet?
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You need to go audition some speakers, and then you'll know the difference between bookshelf and floor standing speakers and passive and powered subs. Go find out for yourself and listen to what your ears tell you. Blindly relying off info you get off of this forum is is going to get you a set of speakers that sounds good to that guy or that guy but not necessarily you. Have you sat down to listen to any speakers on your own yet?

I hear what you are saying, and no I have not listened to any speakers yet.

I live in an apartment now and like I said I am one of the regular people who are impresses with something other than the TV speakers. I have also noticed something about myself is that even in the HTIB set up that I have I don't like the volume to be too high. In action sequences I keep in the middle. So I am pretty happy with what I have.

However, since I have not heard anything better than what I have I am not accustomed to how much better I have my set up with the receiver and good pair or speakers.

Does the room size matter?
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The Pioneer speakers that afrogt linked to are a fantastic value and would be a significant upgrade over your HTIB setup. For a sub, the PSW505 for $199 on Amazon would be excellent to pair with them.

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The Pioneer speakers that afrogt linked to are a fantastic value and would be a significant upgrade over your HTIB setup. For a sub, the PSW505 for $199 on Amazon would be excellent to pair with them.

This will for the family room which is 22x19 and is open to the kitchen, would these speakers be good for this size room?

I think I will do this in steps first I think I start with just the front L/R speakers and use my existing center and then buy the sub and surround.
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So I got the receiver and will most likely have to buy the speakers much sooner than later.

Should I be looking at a 5.1 system or buy the L/R fronts first and then slowly add the rest. Should I also buy the center along with the L/R. Which center would you recommend with the Pioneer AJ floor standing speakers?

I also saw behind the receiver it has front high or something and front wide etc. what does all that mean.
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