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Hi everyone, I'm looking to spec out a good budget speaker system for my parents' living room. They don't really care for the whole surround thing, they aren't very technologically inclined. They do however listen to music often, and very loudly when they do.

Currently this is what they have:
Sony STR-DE945 (older, but it does the job fine for what they need. 110 watts per channel when doing stereo is more than adequate, plus it has a preamp sub out so there is really no need for a different receiver right now. The fact it does 5.1 is overkill)
Pair of "white van" tower speakers, brand is "Digital Pro Audio". Yes, they aren't a real brand and I made my step dad fully aware of this. He did buy them from some guy off of a van, as usual with "white van" speakers. They sound..... ok I guess. They aren't horrible like most white van speakers I've seen people somehow get ahold of, and luckily for them they get LOUD before distorting.
Specs of the towers are:
-2 10" drivers (no labels, no numbers, no brand or anything. I have zero idea who made them)
-2 horn tweeters, Motorola brand. Checked the actual model number and they are like $10 tweeters, but being horns they get loud without distorting really, which is why my step dad has it in his head the towers are a good pair of speakers. They aren't, it's obvious and even my mom knows it.
-don't even think there is a crossover in these things ! That's how cheap they are. Crazy.

After setting everything up for them, it sounds fine for their needs. They mostly watch TV on a day to day basis, but music is played at very loud volumes at least once or twice a week. They definitely have a bit of bass for being white van speakers, that's about all they have going for them along with just being loud.

So I see no need for a new amplifier. Regardless of potentially better sound quality with a newer receiver or one that is specifically stereo or 2.1, they don't have the budget for one since one since a stereo amp is already being bought for the garage to power these "white van" speakers once I set them up with something better.

Now, budget wise..... Per speaker I can't go above $150. It's what they have, so it's what I gotta work with. Total budget, I'd PREFER it to be around $250 but I realize if each speaker was $150 each we would be at $300. At $300 though they might not go through with it since they still have to buy a stereo amp for the garage, and I'd really like them to get something proper downstairs.

Now my mom really wants better speakers in the living room and my step-dad agreed it would be great to have better sound for their music. My step dad listens to rock music while my mom listens to a bit more variety. She listens to rap (even current stuff like mac miller which she gets from me), older 70/80s stuff and rock too.

These are some speakers I was looking at in my price range.... Now quality isn't going to be anything crazy with this price range, I know that. Recommendations on what would be the best bang for my buck though is what I'm looking for.

BIC DV64
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=303-420

Pioneer SP-FS52
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117426

Polk Audio 55T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290270

That's all I could find on the websites I usually buy electronics from. I don't really know of any other good sites for speakers so I could be missing some good deals on better speakers. They are going to need a sub with whatever I decide to go with, so this is what I had in mind:

Polk PSW10 10"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290034

Should be plenty of bass, even at loud volumes, and if I do go with the polks as the mains it should blend nicely.

Any other recommendations on what I should buy ?

Also I want to add.... the "white van" speakers are rated at a supposed 150 RMS, which I doubt. Since he is satisfied without a sub when using them in the living room, my step dad won't need a sub when they get moved to the garage. So I had this stereo amp in mind for my step dad, since it's going to be paired with low quality speakers.

AudioSource AMP-100 Stereo Amplifier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=82-180-022&IsVirtualParent=1

Any recommendations and such, I thank in advanced, and for reading my entire post tongue.gif

I could even go cheaper and it probably would be much better than what they have and them not freak out about the total cost:

Polk Audio R300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290040

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for that budget....you might check craigslist. Also look into BIC Acoustech

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Actually found the Polk 65Ts with a $70 off promo code:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290271

I'm looking to buy new...... Craigslist is mostly going to be old used stuff.

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Hi everyone, I'm looking to spec out a good budget speaker system for my parents' living room. They don't really care for the whole surround thing, they aren't very technologically inclined. They do however listen to music often, and very loudly when they do.

Currently this is what they have:
Sony STR-DE945 (older, but it does the job fine for what they need. 110 watts per channel when doing stereo is more than adequate, plus it has a preamp sub out so there is really no need for a different receiver right now. The fact it does 5.1 is overkill)
Pair of "white van" tower speakers, brand is "Digital Pro Audio". Yes, they aren't a real brand and I made my step dad fully aware of this. He did buy them from some guy off of a van, as usual with "white van" speakers. They sound..... ok I guess. They aren't horrible like most white van speakers I've seen people somehow get ahold of, and luckily for them they get LOUD before distorting.
Specs of the towers are:
-2 10" drivers (no labels, no numbers, no brand or anything. I have zero idea who made them)
-2 horn tweeters, Motorola brand. Checked the actual model number and they are like $10 tweeters, but being horns they get loud without distorting really, which is why my step dad has it in his head the towers are a good pair of speakers. They aren't, it's obvious and even my mom knows it.
-don't even think there is a crossover in these things ! That's how cheap they are. Crazy.

After setting everything up for them, it sounds fine for their needs. They mostly watch TV on a day to day basis, but music is played at very loud volumes at least once or twice a week. They definitely have a bit of bass for being white van speakers, that's about all they have going for them along with just being loud.

So I see no need for a new amplifier. Regardless of potentially better sound quality with a newer receiver or one that is specifically stereo or 2.1, they don't have the budget for one since one since a stereo amp is already being bought for the garage to power these "white van" speakers once I set them up with something better.

Now, budget wise..... Per speaker I can't go above $150. It's what they have, so it's what I gotta work with. Total budget, I'd PREFER it to be around $250 but I realize if each speaker was $150 each we would be at $300. At $300 though they might not go through with it since they still have to buy a stereo amp for the garage, and I'd really like them to get something proper downstairs.

Now my mom really wants better speakers in the living room and my step-dad agreed it would be great to have better sound for their music. My step dad listens to rock music while my mom listens to a bit more variety. She listens to rap (even current stuff like mac miller which she gets from me), older 70/80s stuff and rock too.

These are some speakers I was looking at in my price range.... Now quality isn't going to be anything crazy with this price range, I know that. Recommendations on what would be the best bang for my buck though is what I'm looking for.

BIC DV64
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=303-420

Pioneer SP-FS52
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882117426

Polk Audio 55T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290270

That's all I could find on the websites I usually buy electronics from. I don't really know of any other good sites for speakers so I could be missing some good deals on better speakers. They are going to need a sub with whatever I decide to go with, so this is what I had in mind:

Polk PSW10 10"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290034

Should be plenty of bass, even at loud volumes, and if I do go with the polks as the mains it should blend nicely.

Any other recommendations on what I should buy ?

Also I want to add.... the "white van" speakers are rated at a supposed 150 RMS, which I doubt. Since he is satisfied without a sub when using them in the living room, my step dad won't need a sub when they get moved to the garage. So I had this stereo amp in mind for my step dad, since it's going to be paired with low quality speakers.

AudioSource AMP-100 Stereo Amplifier
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=82-180-022&IsVirtualParent=1

Any recommendations and such, I thank in advanced, and for reading my entire post tongue.gif

I could even go cheaper and it probably would be much better than what they have and them not freak out about the total cost:

Polk Audio R300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290040

The Primus P253 also fits your budget.

http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-P253-Two-way-Floorstanding/dp/B0044D178S/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1365244149&sr=8-7&keywords=primus+speaker
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Actually found the Polk 65Ts with a $70 off promo code:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882290271

I'm looking to buy new...... Craigslist is mostly going to be old used stuff.

In this industry, new does not always mean better.

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Yea, I'd love to have a pair of those but they are really going to be stingy with the budget after I've already presented them some options. Thing is they may get my Yamaha RX-V367 and put the old Sony receiver in the garage. But THEN they will be purchasing me a DAC for my home studio setup around $140. I think it's worth it considering the Yamaha 5.1 should be a significant upgrade to the very old Sony 5.1.

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In this industry, new does not always mean better.

Of course. It's a risk I'm willing to take, I believe polk will put out a fair product, especially one at this price that just happens to be discounted.

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I've seen used Energy RC-30 towers for your price range. Maybe check the avsforum classified and the Energy Owners Thread.

The HTD Level 2 towers are $400 new, and IMO a (noticeable) step up from the other towers listed in the thread thus far.
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Ah, I appreciate the recommendations, but I went ahead and went with a pair of the 65Ts. The promo ended tomorrow and I said hey why not try them, they are probably worth the money with the discount,

Plus, they are getting paired with my Yamaha RX-V367 and a Polk PSW10. Should be a pretty decent 2.1 setup.

Only thing I'm confused about is bi-amping the towers. Not even sure my receiver can do it, read through the entire manual. The towers have two pairs of binding posts each.

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Your Yamaha 367 can't bi amp anyway so don't worry about it.

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