Originally Posted by Ransak
Thanks again! I am planning on putting the sub under an end table but not enclosed. It will be forward left, a couple of feet from a corner (flexible here). My whole setup will be new, so I'm looking at XLR connections (better, right?).
I have looked at eBay and found an f113 for $1950 but no f110 or f112s. Leaning very strongly in the direction of JL. Any good places other than eBay to find reliable used? And can I trust used? Or should I go with e112 new? I also see that Def Tech subs are much cheaper but there sound is not near as good as JL if I understand you correctly.
The f113 is totally awesome. I was thinking on getting a f113 for my system and buy one more f112 and use two of them for my stereo system and the f113 for my movie system.
Well, I didn't say that Def. Tech. had bad subs. There good to, but doing research and reading reviews, JL seem to get better raves on their subs than anyone else. And the reason I didn't go with Def. Tech. is that their subs had baffles on the sides of their subs that would interfere with my enclosed cabinet setup. With baffles on the sides of your subs, you need at least 12" spacing from each baffle and I didn't have that space. But I'm very, very, very pleased with my choice. And highly recommend the f112 Fathom by JL Audio. The f110 is also great for movies, but for music, that 12" compared to the 10" will make a huge difference. So I went with the 12" version. But Def. Tech. also makes great stuff too. I'm not trying to steer you away from other sub manufacturers. But I'm sure you have a budget and you can easily go over it with JL's subs. There not cheap, but very reliable and will rock your world like you never knew existed. There in a class all their own.
I hope you have asked around for others advice and I hope you also did some of your own research before deciding on JL products. This is a big step and I want you to have no regrets about your purchasing decision.
I'm sure there are a lot of good, quality, used gear out there, including speakers. But that's a personal thing. As I mentioned earlier, subs are in a world of their own. If I couldn't afford a new sub or the sub I wanted, I'd wait a little longer until I can save up enough to buy a new sub and the sub that I wanted.
When I designed and built my system, I didn't want any regrets so I went with all new stuff. I wanted peace of mind. New compared to used, you have warranty on new stuff, used stuff, you don't know if the user abused their sub by cranking it up beyond the subs capabilities. May have burned something out or weaken something electronically that may cause you issues later on down the road. When it comes to speakers, I'm weary about used stuff. But that's just me. But I do buy vintage used amps, pre-amps. That's a totally different world again.
Hmmm...if it was me, this is tough. I don't know how to answer this. Hmmm...what is the most you are willing to spend on a sub. We all have limits, even me. The F and G series of JL subs are pretty expensive but worth every penny. I didn't want to go over $3,000.00 for my sub budget. Though I did trade in my old speaker PSB system for a down payment on a new Fathom f112 and still had to pay an additional $1,500.00 for it. It was well worth it. Hmmm...it now boils down to your budget.
What is your sub budget and are you willing to either wait a little longer to save up to spend a little more, past you budget or you need it now. This needs answered first before we can pursue this any further.