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enm260's Avatar enm260
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So I bought a couple Klipsch rf-82s a couple months ago and I absolutely love them. That being said, they definitely have their shortcomings, particularly in the mids. A lot of music sounds great on them, but in songs where the mids are supposed to stand out (I notice it most with vocals, particularly female), they just aren't as loud as they should be, sometimes barely audible over the other instruments.

To improve the mid-range I'm considering getting a center speaker (probably rc-62, but I'll be listening to a few in-store). I already own a multi-channel receiver (Denon avr2312ci) so the speaker would be the only purchase. First of all, do you think there would be a significant improvement in the mid-range by adding a center? Secondly, is it even possible to play 2-channel music through 3 speakers? I was thinking I would use the 2312 (which has dolby pro logic iiz) to expand the stereo into either 5 or 7 channel (unless it can expand to just the front 3 channels, I'm not very familiar with dolby) and then set all speakers but the front 3 to off. Would doing this make me lose whatever would have been played from the surrounds, or would it be played through the front instead?

Any suggestions are welcome. My end goal is just to improve the mid-range sound quality, so if there is something else I could do that would have this effect I'd be glad to hear it.
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Bumping this once. I'll let it drop if I don't get an answer this time.
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I'm not a klipsch fan but I will take a stab at your questions.

I don't think adding a center channel speaker is going to
Help with the problem you are experiencing.

You can play music thru your system using center and/or surrounds.
That would be one of the Dolby DSP's. Don't know if you can turn off
The surrounds though.

The question I have is did you correctly run your Audyssey room
Correction? If so, have you tried some of the different Audyssey
Settings? My older marantz had 3different Audyssey modes,and an
Equalizer too. You could possibly tweak the equalizer to boost the mids.

Have you tried running system with Audyssey off?

Try these suggestions before buying a center channel speaker.
enm260's Avatar enm260
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Originally Posted by grasshoppers View Post

I'm not a klipsch fan but I will take a stab at your questions.

I don't think adding a center channel speaker is going to
Help with the problem you are experiencing.

You can play music thru your system using center and/or surrounds.
That would be one of the Dolby DSP's. Don't know if you can turn off
The surrounds though.

The question I have is did you correctly run your Audyssey room
Correction? If so, have you tried some of the different Audyssey
Settings? My older marantz had 3different Audyssey modes,and an
Equalizer too. You could possibly tweak the equalizer to boost the mids.

Have you tried running system with Audyssey off?

Try these suggestions before buying a center channel speaker.

Thanks for the suggestions. This isn't really specifically about Klipsch so no need to be a Klipsch fan. I actually haven't run Audyssey at all, I didn't think there was much point since I only have the two front speakers right now. Does it adjust relative speaker levels or does it actually equalize frequency ranges too? In any case, I'll run Audyssey and see how that improves things. I don't really think it will make much difference though since I listened to these in the store and even there I could tell the mids were weak.
nodnerb's Avatar nodnerb
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This is exactly what audyssey is for. And it may take some tweeking from there. But it is a good start. Your speakers likely arent the problem, it is likely simply setup.
Plus, klipsch can be very bright so maybe your highs and lows are simply over powering your mids. Again, audyssey should help with that.
Zen Traveler's Avatar Zen Traveler
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I agree about running Audyssey (using a tripod) and don't think adding a center channel is going to help achieve a better mid range. One thing that could help if you aren't doing it already is make sure your speakers are toed in towards you LP.
enm260's Avatar enm260
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One thing that could help if you aren't doing it already is make sure your speakers are toed in towards you LP.

Thanks, I do have them toed in.
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Originally Posted by nodnerb View Post

This is exactly what audyssey is for. And it may take some tweeking from there. But it is a good start. Your speakers likely arent the problem, it is likely simply setup.
Plus, klipsch can be very bright so maybe your highs and lows are simply over powering your mids. Again, audyssey should help with that.

That's exactly what's happening. There isn't really anything wrong with the mids, it's just way too quiet at times relative to the highs and lows. I just didn't realize audyssey does equalization so I never ran it. Thank you, I'll run audyssey after work today and post the results.
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