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post #121 of 133 Old 05-03-2013, 03:04 PM
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My pair is DIY'd but I've heard two other pairs and they have the same sonic signature. I ended up using mine with a sub under 50Hz as I kept on bottom out the woofers. It's a very nice speaker (I lived with it for 5/6 years) but there is better out there especially in the low bass <100Hz and the treble. The midrange is killer though.

I XO my Orion @ 80Hz to my dual RBH SX-1010N subs. I think the midrange & treble are great, but bass dynamic is lacking.
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Another speaker to consider would be Accoustic Zen's Crescendo at around $16,000.

Absolute sound's glowing 5 star review: http://www.acousticzen.com/Resources/Crescendo%20speaker%20Review%20TAS.pdf

Positive Feedback's smitten, love bug bitten, review: http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue46/crescendo.htm

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I've heard many many hi-fi, audiophile speakers during my work analyzing people's room acoustics and designing their acoustic treatment schemes: YG, Aerial, Wilson, Avalon, Zu, etc etc. Honestly the only ones that blew me away were the MBL Xtremes (250k) and the Lotus Audio Granada's (100k), neither of which are box speakers. The Steinway Lyngdorfs were pretty fab also, again 10x the 20k budget...

The Linkwitz Orion is good but not world class. The midrange is exceptional but the bass and treble fall behind other speakers out there. I should know as I have a pair in the garage sitting unused.

I've not had the pleasure of experiencing the MBL offerings, but I'd like to, I'd really like to smile.gif

My take on the Orions, they seem way overpriced to me ... despite their well executed mid-band. I do enjoy reading Linkwitz' web based info, good stuff and highly recommended for anyone pursuing accurate playback ... OB, dipole, monopole, whatever the approach, it's a great resource.


Upon experiencing a couple hours of the 7' tall array of the AMT based Steinway Lyngdorf system, I was amazed. The peak energy was at a level I'd not experienced in hifi. We listened at the highest levels. eek.gif The amount of energy that accompanied the wavelaunch left me slack-jawed in disbelief. I've never heard such high quality playback, at such incredible high levels. It was amazing. With so much radiating area from several feet tall line source of the big AMT drivers, they can deliver crushing transient power, all out of total silence .. seemingly from a zero noise floor ... all the way into the mid 120dB range or even higher. I'd never heard anything like it. I just checked their online specs, they're rated at 132dB capability, I believe it. The total silence to 130dB is a product of all proprietary, top to bottom in house signal path, nice. Levels that high, with very little non-linearity, I'd go deaf in no time.


I just wanted to share that session impression. I've certainly had more enjoyable high end listening experiences, however none as stunning and amazing as that one. The bass range was no slouch either, with a couple dozen or so LF drivers dedicated to the task.


Back on topic; I'm thankful for this thread, as I'd not really paid that close attention to Dennis and Philharmonic's products, it would appear Dennis has got it going on, no? cool.gif So thanks for that.

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I experienced some of Jim Salks creations in an appropriate treated room with balance of diffusion, absorption, etc.
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Smile Jim you are on camera.
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Scanning thru this thread did I miss what your strategy is for room acoustics?
Post a pict, with ETC measurements if you have done the acoustics already
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I experienced some of Jim Salks creations in an appropriate treated room with balance of diffusion, absorption, etc.
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Smile Jim you are on camera.
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Scanning thru this thread did I miss what your strategy is for room acoustics?
Post a pict, with ETC measurements if you have done the acoustics already

WOW that's a nice setup! eek.gif

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If I had $20k I'd go with either Magnepan MG-20's or Sanders ESLs then put the rest of the money to room treatments, music and movies, or whatever.

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Try the Chapman T9-MKII. 40 years of on going voicing....
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The OP's Danley HT is for sale in the classifieds. 

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It was a long time ago, but the best speakers I've ever heard were little siblings of these:

McIntosh XRT-28 Line Array Speakers

Not that I've listened to many hi-end speakers but they impressed me.

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From your short list of options the best deal is the Legacy speakers. But consider listening to a pair of PBN Montana Speakers, based out of California......I'm sure you can work out a deal with the owner..........................and the PBN's TROUNCE any B&W speaker dollar for dollar. biggrin.gif
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What about the XTZ Divine 100.49's ? They have a Dealer here in the USA now..... http://www.clearsoundaudio1.com/aboutus.html#products
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The LS50 on super rigid stands is really all you need. + a subwoofer or 2
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What speakers are you able to audition?

Personally, if I had abundant funds biggrin.gif, I wouldn't even hesitate to buy the $80K TAD Reference One (after I haggle the price down to $70K just for fun). biggrin.gif

The TAD R1's look like one hell of a pair of speakers. I know a guy on one of the forums that now has 2 pairs eek.gif

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