Help me decide between Polk RM6750 & Denon reciever, or Denon 1312 XP HTiB (First home theater)! - AVS Forum
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Polk RM6750 + Denon AVR-1513 Reciever 1 100.00%
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post #1 of 11 Old 05-10-2013, 02:44 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi everyone, I'm in need of help since this is going to be my first home theater. I live in Canada so none of the great deals you have exist here. But I do want to know what you think about the Polk RM6750 and its receiver compared to what I already tried.

So I bought this the other week and returned it:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-650-watts-5-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-system-dht-1312xp-dht-1312xp/10199156.aspx?path=71dc3a0ade3df1f7f1a0380d886ecea0en02&SearchPageIndex=1

It was a decent deal but I didn't like the "S" sounds it made when people spoke, I think it's called sibilance. The speakers were too bright and didn't have much depth to them, although they were clear. I returned them for a Sony HTCt-260 sound bar and I currently own those now. Link to them:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/sony-sony-sound-bar-with-wireless-subwoofer-htct260-htct260/10224187.aspx?path=c1074f0836a669a866c48e9ff9fce60den02&SearchPageIndex=1

I find myself missing the surround effect, and notice distortion on higher volumes. So I'm looking to purchase a new speaker system separately, and then buy a receiver. Today FutureShop has a deal on the Polk RM650 for $299 and a Denon 1513 receiver for $279 and I'm very close to buying it.

Speakers I'm thinking of buying:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/polk-audio-5-1-home-theatre-speaker-system-rm6750-6-speakers/10077799.aspx?path=422e320dd535d656564bda4968cd43c6en02&SearchPageIndex=1

Receiver I'll buy:
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/denon-denon-5-1-channel-3d-home-theatre-receiver-avr-1513-avr-1513/10199397.aspx?path=ee794c8d9995a4c724356f0120098efcen02&SearchPageIndex=1

Of course that will end up costing double of what the Denon 1312 XP was and the Sony soundbar, but I'm wondering if the difference in audio quality is worth it.

So please excuse the noob questions but...

1) Are the specs on the Polk RM6750 better than the included speakers in Denon 1312 XP (SYS 1312)

2) Are the RM6750 2-way drivers? I'm pretty sure the Denon 1312 XP speakers were only 1-way (it says 1-way closed construction on its website)

3) Will I notice a difference in dialogue compared to the Denon 1312 XP? Like I said the Denon's were too bright and whenever a person would say words with the letter S it would sound... I don't know, cheap. I'm a noob so again I can't describe it perfectly.

I'm willing to buy these if they were better. I'll be using them in a smallish apartment.

Thank you guys so much.
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Yes, the Polk has a midrange and a tweeter. While I am not sure the drivers in the Polk system are any better than your Sony soundbar, you will certainly get real surround sound form the polks

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Compared to the Denon 1312 XP how do they (polk) compare? I liked the surround effect on those, but the audio quality was what led me to return them. Thanks
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Actually, instead of the Polk RM6750 should I buy these Pinnacle MB8000 from Dell? It's $50 more but everything looks better, wonder what you think.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Stereo_TV_Speakers/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=A3875328&prg=1&sid=CAqD7bLWUPI&ACD=CAqD7bLWUPI-LLZd1exAzh2d8zmv12tNLw
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I haven't heard the systems you are interested in,...so I cannot say which is better. Having been down the upgrade road, I would keep the soundbar and save up for a set of "non satellite" speakers. Def tech sm350/450s, pioneer Andrew jones series, infinity primus p163, all good bang fir the buck speakers! And all closer to full range speakers...

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I have a few questions that will help others in this thread to help you make a decision. I see you mentioned/described your area as smallish apartment, but can you give more detail about the size in measurements?

You also mentioned distortion at higher volume levels from the soundbar, and I am wondering if you like it loud or trying to compensate for not having surrounds?

My opinion of the RM6750 is that I loved them and wanted to get a set for my bedroom when I was living in an apartment some years back. They would have been great for my tiny bedroom, and that little sub might have worked great.

Do you have a set budget for this, and how much is it? Or are you trying to start small and work your way up?

Besides not liking the speakers from the Denon 1312XP, how did you like the subwoofer?
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Well, I managed to get the Soundbar down to $219.99 (is originally $299), and that price is about what I think they're worth. To get the RM6750 and a receiver, it would be around $700 when you include cables. Remember I live in Canada and can't get any cheaper deals, and yes the cables are the cheap kind on Amazon.ca.

So, $219 soundbar versus $700 for a fairly basic 5.1 system. Even though I'm sure I'll miss the surround effect, I don't know if it's worth almost $500.

I do have a question about the soundbar, though. It says it supports decoding Dolby Digital, but the CNET review says that TVs downmix audio to 2.0 through optical so you wouldn't get any benefit from it. Is that true? How then would I get Dolby Pro Logic II and the like?
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It sounds like you are asking if the $700 basic 5.1 surround setup is that much better than a $200 soundbar, or is the difference worth the $500.

Honestly, The $200 soundbar would be a total waste of $200.

The $700 basic setup is well worth it if you enjoy watching movies, and a little music.

I almost forgot you are in Canada and finding great deals like here in the US is going to be hard. There are online sites like accessories4less.com that are simply the best.

This is a great hobby, and you don’t have to buy everything right now. Having a nice AVR and a couple of speakers now, and then add to it later is a way of doing it in with this hobby. The used market for speakers is a good way of getting great deals also. You just have to investigate on the product they are selling.
Have you considered buying used?
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Of the systems you linked to, I'd probably go with the Pinnacle's.
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I am in the exact same situation!

I still have my dht-1312xp not opened yet (got it for $300)...it's going to be $280 at Best Buy starting this friday, i'll do a price protection if i want to keep dht-1312xp

On futureshop flyer, Denon AVR1513 + Polk RM6750 is going to be $500 this coming friday.
I am guessing the Polk satellites with tweeters will be better than SYS-1312 (no tweeter, only full range driver)

- on the other hand, YHT3414 is reg. $600. The subwoofer is convincing to me.

- harman/kardon AVR2650 is $400 at costco. I'm wondering if I should build my system starting with this AVR2650.

I'm still browsing for opinion and try to demo it myself. But it's hard to find a good demo at local stores as stores tend to not setup entry level systems.

Good luck!
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I got the denon and bought Energy Speakers as well, and I think it's the receiever that is making the sound too bright. Voices have sibilance I think, it's really harsh. It doesn't matter if I change the speaker with a better one, it still has it. So I'm not sure if the Denon AVR 1513 would be any better.

I've tried all the manual settings but it has no audyssey. But changing settings doesn't help the sharp voices at all. It's unnatural sounding.
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