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I want to upgrade Sony HTIB. Budget is $1000. Have a 70" Sharp and love it. Audio stinks. Room is odd shaped, and if I had to guess, 20 ft by 20 ft. I only watch movies, TV, and play games, never listen to just music, and it's rarely ever loud. I do however, very much appreciate beautiful sounding audio.

Im considering Denon AVR-1913 and Energy 5.1 Take Classic.

Will likely add JBL WEM-1 wireless kit to hide surround wires.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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I would suggest looking into the Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers. Only marginally more cost than the Energy Take 5 but much better sounding.
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First, I would try to get the cheapest avr that you can. Second, the energy take classic is for very small rooms.
On a 1000 dollar budget, I would to to allocate 500 dollars to speakers 200-300 to
an avr and 200-300 for a subwoofer. Pioneers, Polk, infinity all have speakers in your price range. Klipsch has two very good budget-friendly subs and there are a host of receivers with adequate power for around 200!

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
Set up #3: JBL130, JBL120C and Klipsch synergy sub
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I would agree that you should look at the Pioneers. They have a lot of fans out there. I would also recommend looking at some Polk speakers. I was in Best Buy yesterday and was demoing the Pioneers against a pair of Polk T15s. Having a larger driver and a front ported design helped them to sound more powerful at lower volume. The pioneers sounded great turned up but kinda lousy quiet. Also I think they are SUPER ugly but that has nothing to do with your purchase decision.

Get out there and listen to some speakers. It will be way easier to decide.

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I've been researching "best bang for the buck" speakers for a couple of months now. My budget is about the same as yours, but I have a head start with a Pioneer 1522 AVR, aome nice surrounds, and a usable sub. I listened to the Pioneers and really liked them, but I've decided to go with Infinity Primus 163s (three of them) for the front soundstage (L/C/R). They are $86 each with free shipping from Crutchfield and Amazon. They are supposedly even cheaper if you have a local Frys. There are smaller P153s that would make good surrounds. That's $408 shipped for your 5.0 speakers. Add a $300 sub (Newegg often has the Klipsch RW-12 on sale). That leaves you with $300 to spend on an AVR. I don't have any advice on this one since I started my HT search by buying the Pioneer.

I am certainly no expert, but all of the above seem to be highly recommended. There must be a reason.
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you can get bang for the buck speakers from the classified ads. have you try to look there? a lot of nice decent speakers on that section.

(2) Energy RC 70 towers(1) Energy Veritas 2.0C center(2) Energy Veritas 2.0R surrounds(2) Energy RC LCR back surrounds(1) Rythmik LV12R sub(1) Mirage Omni 12 sub(1) Denon 2112CI avr(1) LG 55" LM7600 tv
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I took your suggestions. I plan to put the majority of the money into the speakers. Also, I went to Best Buy and listened to lots of speakers. What do you guys think of this...

Purchase a Klipsch center (I loved their highs): I measured the height between my TV and stand, exactly 6 inches. This speaker is 5.4". The center speaker seems to do the majority of the work, so I figured I'd start here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040QMTK4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A21759W3TJTNCB

Purchase the Wem-1 wireless kit for current rear speakers:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GXQOUU/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Total price is $500. In a couple months, I'll buy matching L/Rs, then later a receiver, surrounds, a sub, and so forth. ...Currently have a Sony HTIB.
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Purchase a Klipsch center (I loved their highs): I measured the height between my TV and stand, exactly 6 inches. This speaker is 5.4". The center speaker seems to do the majority of the work, so I figured I'd start here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040QMTK4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A21759W3TJTNCB

Its generally thought to be a good idea to have your front stage speakers match.
there is nothing wrong with buying the Klipsch center, as long as your front left and right speaker are also Klipsch.
preferably matching model types.
This is advised because a seamless audio image is desired by most (not all movie enthusiast)

Kudos for going out and listening to speakers!
enjoy what i hope will be a wonderful journey for you.

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Thanks Appreciate the time you guys took to give feedback.
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You can always start with 3.1 or 2.1 and upgrade to surround at a latter point. I'd think for movies and games that a sub would be a worthwhile choice. Depending on your seating layout you may be able to run a phantom center. You do want your front soundstage to match. The Klipsch RW-12D @ $280 is a great bang for your buck sub. As for good budget speakers, the Pioneer Andrew Jones line, or the Infinity Primus line are the 2 most often mentioned bang for your buck speakers.
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I have the Denon 1912 and Jamo S426....The Denon was $300 and the Jamos were $145 off Craigslist new. They go for $179 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Jamo-426-HCS-WENGE-5-Piece/dp/B003GGXGU6 I really like the sound, but I don't know much about speakers, so they may not sound as great to people who have heard great speakers. I also have a dayton sub for $120- http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=300-629
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Update:

Installed Klipsch center speaker and wireless kit. Center is awesome. Makes the rest of my HTIB sound like shite. Haha. Ill buy the matching 41 ii fronts in a few months time.

Adding the small rubber feet to the bottom brings the height of the speaker to within a mm of my tv. Wow, that was close. So close, it looks like a custom fit. Very cool.

The JBL wireless works great however there's a very obnoxious buzz after the receiver turns off. This buzz is not there when the receiver is on. This requires me to turn off the rear speakers after turning off the receiver. Annoying.

Question: How important is a new receiver in terms of sound quality? I don't listen loud so I don't need any more power than my current Sony HTIB receiver. Ignoring the added features, will a Denon 1913 sound better at normal everyday listening levels? I've searched online and read mixed results.
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Question: How important is a new receiver in terms of sound quality? I don't listen loud so I don't need any more power than my current Sony HTIB receiver. Ignoring the added features, will a Denon 1913 sound better at normal everyday listening levels? I've searched online and read mixed results.

Yes I believe it'll sound better than your Sony HTIB receiver.

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Hmm, how come? Is there a technical reason?
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Yes I believe it'll sound better than your Sony HTIB receiver.
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Hmm, how come? Is there a technical reason?

I would guess that the Denon has a better quality DAC than the Sony. In addition you would be getting Audyssey room correction also which could make a significant difference (though not a given). If the added features aren't that much of a draw, perhaps the Denon 1713 might be a better fit since it has a more advanced version of Audyssey and you should be able to get it for $100 less or so than the 1913.
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I couldn't wait months. Ha. Two Klipsch rb-41s arrived today. They sound great.

I was about to order the Denon 1713 based on the recommendation here, then I realized my current HTIB sub is passive, so I ordered a powered sub first. The Bic h-100, recommended in another thread, should be here in a week or so.
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