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I have a room 25 long and 20 wide. Here is what I put together in the last week of research. Please give me your input good or bad. I only have room for bookshelfs and about a $2500 budget which Iam over by a bit now
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Yamaha RX-A1020
Klipsch SW-112 Subwoofer
Definitive Technology Mythos Seven 7 Center
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I only have room for bookshelfs and about a $2500 budget ...
Marantz SR5007 ($849, shipped, at Amazon.com)
2 x Polk RTiA3 ($399/pr., shipped, at Amazon.com)
Polk CSiA6 ($399, shipped, at Amazon.com)
SVS PB-1000 ($499, shipped)

Total: $2,545
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I have a room 25 long and 20 wide. Here is what I put together in the last week of research. Please give me your input good or bad. I only have room for bookshelfs and about a $2500 budget which Iam over by a bit now
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Yamaha RX-A1020
Klipsch SW-112 Subwoofer
Definitive Technology Mythos Seven 7 Center
4 Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 55

Unless you're hoping to get into 4K anytime soon, that receiver is a bit costly. Not to mention the HDMI tech isn't even available yet to support full frame rates.

Also, the subwoofer you're listing isn't a good value. For that size room you will need a few serious subs to really fill it. But if you're limited to one I'd go with the SVS PB-1000. At the least.

Now you have about $1400 left to spend on your speakers.

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I would need 4 speakers would you suggest 4 instead of 2 on the Polk RTiA3
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I would need 4 speakers would you suggest 4 instead of 2 on the Polk RTiA3
Nope: Amazon sells the RTiA3 in pairs. smile.gif
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If I get two subs what are your recommendations.
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On a budget, I'd recommend 2 of the Klipsch rw-12d's.
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If I get two subs what are your recommendations.

Can you afford two PB-1000's? If so, then go with that.

If it were me, I'd much rather save money on the receiver and pick up a second sub. I also personally don't like Polk, so I would go with something else.

This would be my suggestion:

Denon AVR-3312CI
Focal Chorus 705V 2 pairs
Focal Chorus CC700V
SVS PB-1000

Total: $2280

You could pick up a second PB-1000 and have your total be $2780. Barely over your budget, but a very good system.

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If I get two subs what are your recommendations.
Easy: dual SVS PB-1000s ($949, shipped)! biggrin.gif

But to keep as close to budget as possible, +1 to dual Klipsch RW-12d (when on sale for $300 or less at Newegg.com).
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Unless you're hoping to get into 4K anytime soon, that receiver is a bit costly. Not to mention the HDMI tech isn't even available yet to support full frame rates.

I agree. Put a little less into the receiver and more into the speakers and sub. You'll get better SQ value for your money that way.

I'll also 2nd the SVS PB-1000 and Klipsch RW-12d recommendations.

I like Ascend Acoustics CMT 340-SE and CBM-170 SE speakers in your budget range. Would the CMT-340 SEs be too big for you? They are mini towers, not floorstanding. CMT-340 SEs across the front would be great for your front sound stage in such a big room, but even the CBM-170 SEs would be nice.

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All the info is great but how do I know what to buy without hearing them. I live in south florida and the stores are lame. I went to 3 bestbuys and none of the really had their sound rooms working correctl
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Frankly, you can get a very nice avr for half of what the a1020 costs. The already mentioned Klipsch rw-12d are a hell of a bargain. You could get a nice avr and 2 of the rw-12d's and still have close to $1500 left for speakers. If you can't find any place locally to audition speakers then buy from someplace that has a good return policy. Amazon (30 days), Crutchfield (60 days), are 2 that come to mind. Also, many of the internet direct speaker mfg's have good return policies. Aperion (highly regarded) has 30 days AND they pay shipping both ways. You should be able to get enough recommendations here in the forum to get yourself something that you'll be happy with.
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A very common mistake for most people putting together a new setup is to overspend on the receiver. Outside of the advanced room correction features, there isn't really a reason to get a high end receiver unless you also need all of the added connectivity options (stuff like external amps).

Amazon has some pretty good deals on used products, and being Amazon it's not like you're buying with risk. Here's a very solid receiver at a good price.

$350
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1913-Networking-Receiver-Capability/dp/B007R8U5R6/ref=sr_1_22?m=A2L77EE7U53NWQ&s=merchant&ie=UTF8&qid=1369194139&sr=1-22

Being in a large room you're going to want speakers that can easily handle loud volumes. The HSU HB speakers are a really good value, under $900 for 5.0 shipped

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/speakerpkg.html

That leaves you a a nice bit for dual subs. Again you need something capable of good output. The subs mentioned are solid, but the Outlaw LFM+ is a better bang

http://www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1plus.html

That should put you right at $2500, and do a good job crushing your original system in a room that size.
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All the info is great but how do I know what to buy without hearing them. I live in south florida and the stores are lame. I went to 3 bestbuys and none of the really had their sound rooms working correctly, same fot brandsmarts. I thought I was lucky to have a sound advice but onl had 3 speakers to choose from. Your suggestions would be appreciated.
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Aperion, Hsu, Outlaw, RSL, SVS, are some of the many ID (internet direct) speaker vendors with good return policies. All in their own way are highly recommended speaker mfg's. I'm sure others will chime in with others.

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All the info is great but how do I know what to buy without hearing them. I live in south florida and the stores are lame. I went to 3 bestbuys and none of the really had their sound rooms working correctly, same fot brandsmarts. I thought I was lucky to have a sound advice but onl had 3 speakers to choose from. Your suggestions would be appreciated.
http://www.soundsandcinema.com/cgi-bin/hifi These guys have a nice selection and will let you demo any of them.
imo the best demo can only be done in your home with your equipment. Most id companies provide an in home trial period, however it is a pia to send them back if you don't like them. The showroom demo will give you an idea of what kind of sound you prefer out of your system, so you can narrow down the choices.
Given your budget, this would be a can't miss system
Sc1522-k @ costco $599
and as Jay1 mentioned above, your choice from here
http://hsuresearch.com/packages.html
tip: Hybrid-3 7.1 smile.gif
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All the info is great but how do I know what to buy without hearing them. I live in south florida and the stores are lame. I went to 3 bestbuys and none of the really had their sound rooms working correctly, same fot brandsmarts. I thought I was lucky to have a sound advice but onl had 3 speakers to choose from. Your suggestions would be appreciated.

The only real variable is going to be the sound of the speakers. The receiver and sub performance is based on known capabilities. You can basically purchase those items , and if you really want to audition a bunch of speakers, order about 5 different pairs with a 30 day return policy and pick the ones that work best for you.


Auditioning in a store will only tell you what sounds good in that store, not your house.
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Update
I decided to go with the Yamaha 1020 for the main unit
I still haven't settled on the rest but I have a few more question I hope everyone will help with.

For the sub I need know if the Outlaw LFM-1 PLUS would handle a large room, or do Ineed to upgrade to the LFM-1 EX. ( 26x 16 that also leads into the livingroom.

For the speakers should the front backs and center be from the same manufacturer?

When selecting the backs should I select the same as the front or should I select something less expensive

Everyones info has been great Thank You all very much
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I'm guessing you could have gotten dual subs if you went with the cheaper receiver... The EX will handle a large room for most people, depending on what kind of output you're expecting it may or may not be enough (I'm guessing it will meet your expectations). The difference between the EX and Plus is, the EX has deeper extension, and slightly more output.

You want the front 3 speakers to be as close to identical as possible, completely identical is an ideal setup, but most people cant accommodate a vertical center speaker. The surrounds are much less important, meeting the placement requirements and output needs of your setup are more important then identical matching.
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Have you
heard the hsu speakers front and center
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No I haven't, but the HB1 is a sound design with very good measured performance.

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The Hsu speakers are very good. You can get a discount on the Hsu subs if you go with their speakers, and their subs are basically upgraded version of the Outlaw subs. Hsu designed the Outlaw subs, and the Outlaw subs are based on older models of the VTF2 and VTF3. The current VTF subs are better. These subs are substantially more powerful than the Klispch and SVS subs, but they do cost more and are somewhat larger.
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I agree with post #2, get the Polk speakers. I had a very similar budget and after listening to many difference brands and taking advice from here; I am very happy with the decision. They are a great bang for the buck.
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