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I am doing an overhaul and asking a lot of questions separately over other threads so bear with me. I want to replace my sub and surround speakers first. I want to know with my current set-up which surround/satelite speakers might be best. I have a evenly spaced rectangular room where I can put SR/SL and SB without there being any distance or height issues. I use my system mainly for blu0ray/TV/Xbox so I am looking for a rich cinema like experience. I have been reading a lot about dipole, bipole and the lot, but have yet to find a real sound piece of advice on which is best. I want to run a 7.1 set-up with SL/SR and 2 SB's. I appreciate the help.

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With your mismatched fronts and center, I would suggest focusing on a matched L/C/R array first . You want the front three, especially, to be sonically matched (though, you should have surrounds that are from the same line as well). This is a big weak point in your system.

Do you like your B&W 684's or are you thinking of upgrading and getting something different? The HTM61 is the matching center, if you do still like them. The on wall DS3 is the matching surround speaker model. You can switch from monopole to dipole with a flip of the toggle. I would rather run them as monopoles.

How large is your room? Is it open to other areas? This will address subwoofers and other concerns too.
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With your mismatched fronts and center, I would suggest focusing on a matched L/C/R array first . You want the front three, especially, to be sonically matched (though, you should have surrounds that are from the same line as well). This is a big weak point in your system.

Do you like your B&W 684's or are you thinking of upgrading and getting something different? The HTM61 is the matching center, if you do still like them. The on wall DS3 is the matching surround speaker model. You can switch from monopole to dipole with a flip of the toggle. I would rather run them as monopoles.

How large is your room? Is it open to other areas? This will address subwoofers and other concerns too.

Thanks for the reply. I have a broken tweeter in one of my 684's but I am planning on keeping them. I have researched the HTM61 and feel it would work well in my set-up. I also have a pair of polk fxi-a4's sitting around that I thought about adding as surround L/R for the time being. I was hesitant because of the heavy brand mixing to put them on the wall. I feel as a replacement for the Yamahas it is a better choice. The room is 20x15 with a small 4x3 door outcrop to the right rear corner of my seating. The TV in centered on the 20 foot long wall with the main viewing location being about 6 feet away from the TV. I know my brand mixing hurts a lot. I just put it together with pieces I could afford while in school and was ignorant to a lot of the specifics....which is why I am asking these questions....thanks for the help.

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The Polk surrounds would definitely work a little better compared to the Yamaha speakers. By the time you replace them wth DS3's, you'll probably be ready to try all new speakers anyway. biggrin.gif

Do check out SVS, HSU, and Rythmik subwoofers. Internet direct can sometimes be a cost vs. performance godsend.

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The Polk surrounds would definitely work a little better compared to the Yamaha speakers. By the time you replace them wth DS3's, you'll probably be ready to try all new speakers anyway. biggrin.gif

Do check out SVS, HSU, and Rythmik subwoofers. Internet direct can sometimes be a cost vs. performance godsend.

haha...yeah ds3's are legit. I have a weird wall set-up so I have a narrow hanging area for the surround right and can't fit a ds3 in there. I am looking at the rw-12d sub when it goes back on sale, or the psw505 while it's still under 200 on amazon..but I will look at those too..thanks.

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I would appreciate some opinions on speaker options for those willing to share. i just purchased the pioneer SC-1222-K for $550 (which i was excited to bring the BB price down from $1100 due to newegg's price), and i was convinced by the subwoofer forum that i should first get a feel for the speakers in the room beofre buying the sub. I have a fairly large volume with a 18x20 room and 16' vaulted ceiling. in addition, its an open floor plan so the volume is open to kitchen, dining room, and office. my budget for speakers is ~$600, which im replacing an old ONKYO 7.1 that I'd be more than willing to re-use a few speakers for side/rear. i've done some quick research to find the options below.

OPTION 1: Polk Audio
center - CS20 ($150) http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CS20C/Polk-Audio-TSi-CS20-Cherry.html?tp=189&awkw=25135402945&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=6453702265&awdv=c
L/R - TSi400 ($230ea) http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107TSI400C/Polk-Audio-TSi400-Cherry.html?tp=185&awkw=25135401985&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=6453701185&awdv=c
OPTION 1 TOTAL: $610

OPTION 2: Klipsch
center - synergy c-20 ($180) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780030
L/R - synergy f-20 ($170ea) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780027
OPTION 2 TOTAL: $520

any opinions of the above? perhaps similar cost options that you would recommend? any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I would appreciate some opinions on speaker options for those willing to share. i just purchased the pioneer SC-1222-K for $550 (which i was excited to bring the BB price down from $1100 due to newegg's price), and i was convinced by the subwoofer forum that i should first get a feel for the speakers in the room beofre buying the sub. I have a fairly large volume with a 18x20 room and 16' vaulted ceiling. in addition, its an open floor plan so the volume is open to kitchen, dining room, and office. my budget for speakers is ~$600, which im replacing an old ONKYO 7.1 that I'd be more than willing to re-use a few speakers for side/rear. i've done some quick research to find the options below.

OPTION 1: Polk Audio
center - CS20 ($150) http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107CS20C/Polk-Audio-TSi-CS20-Cherry.html?tp=189&awkw=25135402945&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=6453702265&awdv=c
L/R - TSi400 ($230ea) http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107TSI400C/Polk-Audio-TSi400-Cherry.html?tp=185&awkw=25135401985&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=6453701185&awdv=c
OPTION 1 TOTAL: $610

OPTION 2: Klipsch
center - synergy c-20 ($180) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780030
L/R - synergy f-20 ($170ea) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882780027
OPTION 2 TOTAL: $520

any opinions of the above? perhaps similar cost options that you would recommend? any help would be greatly appreciated!

This is a good question and I'm in a similar boat speaker shopping trying to feed a new reciever, except I just got the Pioneer 1522 9.2 w/ D3 amplification in 3 zones at Costco for $600 - you may want to return Best buy 1222 and see if Costco in your area has as it is an In-Store only deal. As for the speakers I look forward to other opinions as I had narrowed to the same ones!
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