$1500 budget for speakers and subwoofer. Please help. - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 12:35 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Hello,
I have an older Pioneer receiver with a 5.1 Klipsch satellites and an older Velodyne subwoofer. I am planning to upgrade now that my new home is near completion.

I've just purchased a new Pioneer SC 1522K receiver recently. I have a $1500.00 budget for the speakers and sub. I mainly plan on using my system for music and movies. I am looking to focus on a 3.1 set up for now. I plan to upgrade to a 5.1 much later. I am of the understanding that its more important to focus on the left and right speakers considering my listening preferences.

I have considered the CMT-340 SE L/R and CMT-340 SE center or the JBL ES90 L/R.

The following image is the living room where I plan to place my new system.

Thank you
udgl.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us
jokersworld is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 02:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
commsysman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,209
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Liked: 244
I will assume that the Velodyne subwoofer is what you are going forward with.

Is that so?

Consider a pair of Monitor Audio BX-5 speakers with a Monitor Audio Bronze BX Center speaker.

That setup will run about $1100 total and should sound very nice.

The Klipsch RW-12D subwoofer is around $400 and is good.
commsysman is offline  
post #3 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 03:39 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Jay1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 3,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 102
That is a very nice looking area. Are you limited to where you can place the speakers? You mentioned ES90's, which are pretty large. Do you have any constraints on subwoofer size?
Jay1 is offline  
post #4 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 04:00 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by commsysman View Post

I will assume that the Velodyne subwoofer is what you are going forward with.

Is that so?
I plan on replacing the Velodyne sub. I was considering between the SVS PB-1000($499) or Klipsch RW-12D($349). Which would you suggest?
Quote:
Originally Posted by commsysman View Post

That is a very nice looking area. Are you limited to where you can place the speakers? You mentioned ES90's, which are pretty large. Do you have any constraints on subwoofer size?
I am planning to place the floor standing speakers on either side of the white cabinetry. I am open to any size subwoofer.
jokersworld is offline  
post #5 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 04:02 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cschang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
Posts: 14,730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by jokersworld View Post

I am planning to place the floor standing speakers on either side of the white cabinetry. I am open to any size subwoofer.
Whatever speakers you decide on, make sure they are not behind the front plane of the cabinetry.

I agree with Jay, that is a very nice looking area.

-curtis

Owner of Wave Crest Audio
Volunteer Mod at the Ascend Acoustics Forum
Like all things on the Internet, do your research, as forums have a good amount of misinformation.
Help beat breast cancer!

cschang is offline  
post #6 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 04:11 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by cschang View Post

Whatever speakers you decide on, make sure they are not behind the front plane of the cabinetry.
Why is that? Noise distortion? Thank you for your help.
jokersworld is offline  
post #7 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 05:37 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Jay1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 3,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 102
A speaker in a box is designed "free field" away from any boundaries, unless specified for wall mounting. Without getting to technical, the specific baffle shape is accounted for in the speaker design. Placing the speaker next to boundaries can effectively extend the baffle, which can have negative effects.
Jay1 is offline  
post #8 of 30 Old 06-14-2013, 05:38 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Jay1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: AZ
Posts: 3,980
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 102
The ascend setup with rythmik sub looks like a good one.
Jay1 is offline  
post #9 of 30 Old 06-15-2013, 04:44 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Thank you.
jokersworld is offline  
post #10 of 30 Old 06-15-2013, 07:23 PM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Now I am undecided between the Monitor Audio Bronze BX-6 and Boston Acoustics A 360 for my left and right speakers. Which ones are better quality and better sounding speakers?
jokersworld is offline  
post #11 of 30 Old 06-16-2013, 09:56 AM
AVS Special Member
 
commsysman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,209
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Liked: 244
I would choose the Monitor Audio BX-6 speakers personally, but the Boston speakers are also very good.

You can't make a wrong choice there.

From what I have heard, i would think that the SVS subwoofer is better than the Klipsch, but that is only hearsay.

You might want to go to the subwoofer forum and poke around a bit.
commsysman is offline  
post #12 of 30 Old 06-16-2013, 12:10 PM
Member
 
jm86wvu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: ocmd
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
I think you'd be very happy with that Ascend setup. I've never heard a bad thing about them. I'll do my shameless plug for the Totem speakers that I just bought a few months ago (Mite and Mite-T center). I absolutely LOVE them. They would come in around your budget if you can find and dealer and are keeping the Velodyne sub. I had never heard of them before my local dealer recommended them. I couldn't afford the Dali, Focal, and Paradigm speakers that he preferred although they were all fantastic in his setup.
jm86wvu is offline  
post #13 of 30 Old 06-16-2013, 01:11 PM
AVS Special Member
 
sdg4vfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern CA
Posts: 1,313
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 92
+1 on the Ascends. They are one of the solid choice's at that price point. Also, in your space their longer/taller/thinner form factor could look really nice.

If you're considering a new sub ... then for music I would suggest the Rythmik LV12R ($550) and the SVS SB-1000 or PB-1000 ($500) subs over the Klipsch sub. The Klipsch is the go-to budget "Home Theater" sub, but IMO a little lacking in detail and accuracy for music listening. Both the Rythmik and SVS will be a noticeable improvement - you might call them the go-to budget music subs wink.gif
sdg4vfx is offline  
post #14 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 09:29 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I know its been almost a whole year but I finally made my speaker purchase. I finally decided on the Monitor Audio Bronze BX6 as fronts and Monitor Audio Bronze BX Center speaker. I went with the SVS PB-1000 for my subwoofer. I am very pleased with my purchase. Thank you all for your help and assistance.

I plan to hang the TV on the wall soon.

Here are a few shots of my set up now.



jokersworld is offline  
post #15 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 10:28 AM
Member
 
goldark's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 13
Gorgeous setup. Any way to mount the television higher so the center channel isn't blocking the bottom part of it?
jokersworld likes this.
goldark is offline  
post #16 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 01:12 PM
AVS Special Member
 
sdg4vfx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southern CA
Posts: 1,313
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 92
^^^^ +1 Maybe a wall mount?
sdg4vfx is offline  
post #17 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 01:32 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
cschang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Manhattan Beach, CA
Posts: 14,730
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 70
I'd move the speakers farther forward if I could. With the way you have them angled, you are getting reflections off of the white cabinetry.

That is a VERY nice room!
jokersworld likes this.

-curtis

Owner of Wave Crest Audio
Volunteer Mod at the Ascend Acoustics Forum
Like all things on the Internet, do your research, as forums have a good amount of misinformation.
Help beat breast cancer!

cschang is offline  
post #18 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 01:58 PM
Member
 
Greg Ulate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 120
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Very nice home--looks to be very wide open. How big would you say it is? How does that pb1000 perform? Shake the house, much? I have a similar space and am looking to shake things up, literally.
jokersworld likes this.

Denon AVR 1709 + B&W 683s floors + B&W HTM62 center + Energy ESW-8HG Sub
Yamaha HTR-6050 + JBL Studio 530 + Studio 520C
Greg Ulate is offline  
post #19 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 03:38 PM
Senior Member
 
RayGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by jm86wvu View Post

I think you'd be very happy with that Ascend setup. I've never heard a bad thing about them. I'll do my shameless plug for the Totem speakers that I just bought a few months ago (Mite and Mite-T center). I absolutely LOVE them. They would come in around your budget if you can find and dealer and are keeping the Velodyne sub. I had never heard of them before my local dealer recommended them. I couldn't afford the Dali, Focal, and Paradigm speakers that he preferred although they were all fantastic in his setup.

Nevermind ...
RayGuy is online now  
post #20 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 03:41 PM
Senior Member
 
RayGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldark View Post

Gorgeous setup. Any way to mount the television higher so the center channel isn't blocking the bottom part of it?

Good suggestion. as was the suggestion to move the floor standers forward. They should be in front of the wall .
RayGuy is online now  
post #21 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 03:42 PM
Senior Member
 
RayGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 416
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Liked: 47
Quote:
Originally Posted by RayGuy View Post

quote]

Nevermind ...
RayGuy is online now  
post #22 of 30 Old 02-28-2014, 04:48 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
zieglj01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,304
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked: 386
Quote:
Originally Posted by cschang View Post

I'd move the speakers farther forward if I could. With the way you have them angled, you are getting reflections off of the white cabinetry.

+2
And, yes the room is a nice one
jokersworld likes this.

__________________________________________
Who and Where - is the Way, the Truth and the Life?

Speakers > MB Quart VS05, Boston VS260, Snell K7
Subwoofer > Mordaunt Short Aviano 7
Receiver > Tascam PA-R200, Pioneer VSX-30
zieglj01 is offline  
post #23 of 30 Old 03-01-2014, 05:27 AM
 
GIEGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked: 352
As others have said, try to bring the BX6's as far forward as you can to reduce reflections off the wall unit. You will be limited by not wanting to impede the foot traffic zone in front of the unit though. A reasonable compromise would be to bring them forward as far as possible and re-run your AVR's auto set-up routine at that position. While they're there, mark the position of the front corners of BX6's with (say) discrete adhesive dots. Then you can move them back out of the way for general casual TV viewing etc. When it's time for blockbuster movie watching or concentrated music listening, slide them back out to the "audiophile" position.

In a similar vein, while the large white coffee table is clearly integral to your terrific décor, you should be aware that the large acoustically reflective surface between the seats and the speakers will be adversely colouring the sound. I suggest a similar compromise to the BX6's where you move it out of the way for AVR auto set-up and serious viewing and listening sessions.

When your TV is wall mounted centrally in the alcove, it will be at an ideal viewing height. When you do so, be sure to maintain the centre speaker's position right at the leading edge of the unit (even slightly beyond) for best sonic performance.

Fabulous looking space! Your photography skills are very good too. smile.gif
jokersworld likes this.
GIEGAR is offline  
post #24 of 30 Old 03-01-2014, 06:46 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by GIEGAR View Post

As others have said, try to bring the BX6's as far forward as you can to reduce reflections off the wall unit. You will be limited by not wanting to impede the foot traffic zone in front of the unit though. A reasonable compromise would be to bring them forward as far as possible and re-run your AVR's auto set-up routine at that position. While they're there, mark the position of the front corners of BX6's with (say) discrete adhesive dots. Then you can move them back out of the way for general casual TV viewing etc. When it's time for blockbuster movie watching or concentrated music listening, slide them back out to the "audiophile" position.

In a similar vein, while the large white coffee table is clearly integral to your terrific décor, you should be aware that the large acoustically reflective surface between the seats and the speakers will be adversely colouring the sound. I suggest a similar compromise to the BX6's where you move it out of the way for AVR auto set-up and serious viewing and listening sessions.

When your TV is wall mounted centrally in the alcove, it will be at an ideal viewing height. When you do so, be sure to maintain the centre speaker's position right at the leading edge of the unit (even slightly beyond) for best sonic performance.

Fabulous looking space! Your photography skills are very good too. smile.gif

I will try all of your suggestions, thank you. I also assumed that the coffee table would affect the sound, but how drastically?
jokersworld is offline  
post #25 of 30 Old 03-04-2014, 12:02 PM
Senior Member
 
PolishDude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 268
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 16

wow that is an awesome room, looks like it's out of a magazine

PolishDude is offline  
post #26 of 30 Old 03-04-2014, 04:43 PM
 
GIEGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked: 352
Quote:
Originally Posted by jokersworld View Post

I will try all of your suggestions, thank you. I also assumed that the coffee table would affect the sound, but how drastically?

Sorry @jokersworld, I missed your question earlier. The effect of the coffee table is likely to be more subtle than drastic. Because of the way midrange and bass frequencies propogate into the room (see below), it's these frequencies that will be interfered with. For example, with the table moved, you should notice things like improved clarity of voices/vocals and more coherent/fuller upper bass, giving you more feel or "punch". Many musical instruments have their fundamental frequencies spanning this upper bass/lower midrange.

GIEGAR is offline  
post #27 of 30 Old 03-06-2014, 09:14 AM - Thread Starter
Newbie
 
jokersworld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by GIEGAR View Post

Sorry @jokersworld, I missed your question earlier. The effect of the coffee table is likely to be more subtle than drastic. Because of the way midrange and bass frequencies propogate into the room (see below), it's these frequencies that will be interfered with. For example, with the table moved, you should notice things like improved clarity of voices/vocals and more coherent/fuller upper bass, giving you more feel or "punch". Many musical instruments have their fundamental frequencies spanning this upper bass/lower midrange.


Great read and informative. Thank you.
jokersworld is offline  
post #28 of 30 Old 03-06-2014, 05:51 PM
 
GIEGAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 41 Post(s)
Liked: 352
No worries. If you decide to reposition the mains &/or the table, please report back on your impressions.

Good luck with your system and happy listening. smile.gif
jokersworld likes this.
GIEGAR is offline  
post #29 of 30 Old 03-06-2014, 06:57 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
zieglj01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 10,304
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 160 Post(s)
Liked: 386
Quote:
Originally Posted by GIEGAR View Post

If you decide to reposition the mains &/or the table, please report back on your impressions.

Good luck with your system and happy listening. smile.gif

+1

__________________________________________
Who and Where - is the Way, the Truth and the Life?

Speakers > MB Quart VS05, Boston VS260, Snell K7
Subwoofer > Mordaunt Short Aviano 7
Receiver > Tascam PA-R200, Pioneer VSX-30
zieglj01 is offline  
post #30 of 30 Old 03-07-2014, 04:59 PM
AVS Special Member
 
drewTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Anaheim Hills, CA
Posts: 1,816
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Liked: 70
I love the vibe of that room. May I ask where you got that sectional? I am moving pretty soon and it would be perfect for the new place. Thx.
jokersworld likes this.
drewTT is offline  
Reply Speakers

Tags
Pioneer Sc 1522k 9 2 Channel Av Receiver , Ascend Acoustics Cmt 340 Se Center , Jbl Es90bk 4 Way Dual 8 Inch Floorstanding Speaker Black
Gear in this thread

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off