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My Mirage M-5si left speaker is doing a lot of vibrating in one of the midrange speakers on it. I go over to it when it is doing it and put pressure on it and it stops but it is very annoying. I have a 7.1 surround setup and these are my two front speakers that I use for music and for theater. My rears are Mirage OM9 and my back speakers are Mirage MBS. My center is the Mirage MC-si. I don't know if I want Mirage again or not as speakers change as they age anyway. I was wondering what a good pair of speakers would be that would be of the M-5si class? I was looking at the NHT Tower Speaker but was curious what all you music and theater buffs would do. Thanks so much.
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For $1500 or less you should be able to pick up a pair of JBL Studio L890s. imo, the best speaker in that price range!
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I have never heard these before? What type of sound do they have? Are there any reviews that you know of for these? I will look but had not thought about these before.
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I have never heard these before? What type of sound do they have? Are there any reviews that you know of for these? I will look but had not thought about these before.

You will find that all Harman speakers will sound similar to most Canadian speakers (Mirage). The connection is Floyd Toole and Sean Olive. They both worked at the Canadian NRC and Harman International. Sean is still at Harman (JBL) and Floyd retired in 2007.

There are quite a few reviews of the L890, L880, L820, LC2. You can also find them on Amazon.
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My Mirage M-5si left speaker is doing a lot of vibrating in one of the midrange speakers on it. I go over to it when it is doing it and put pressure on it and it stops but it is very annoying. I have a 7.1 surround setup and these are my two front speakers that I use for music and for theater. My rears are Mirage OM9 and my back speakers are Mirage MBS. My center is the Mirage MC-si. I don't know if I want Mirage again or not as speakers change as they age anyway. I was wondering what a good pair of speakers would be that would be of the M-5si class? I was looking at the NHT Tower Speaker but was curious what all you music and theater buffs would do. Thanks so much.

Are you planing to change your center as well eventually? If not, the same line would be your best bet, otherwise you may hear differences in tone between your center and fronts.
Also, would you be interested in bookshelves? If so, check out the Sonus Faber Toy or Venere lines. If you're ok buying used, you can possibly even get the Luito for a similar price. They don't go as low as towers, so you might need your sub to complement them, but they have very smooth and silky mids.
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I probably will change my front then. Have any of you heard the NHT Towers?
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I haven't, but RayJr has NHT. Try contacting him.
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Does anyone know what the Mirage OM15 are like? Someone said that PSB may be similar to Mirage. Is there any truth to that?
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I have been looking at reviews of the OM15 and most are very favorable. Now I just have to find them. I really like my M-5si speakers. I guess all good things must come to an end.
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If anyone is even familiar with the Mirage M-5si, what level of speaker would I need to go to so I can get the same quality I had before? I know things have changed a little over the last 20 years which is how old these things are? I don't need bi polar or omni polar either. More movies are watched than listening to music. It is more of a dedicated Home Theater overall.
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Does anyone know what the Mirage OM15 are like? Someone said that PSB may be similar to Mirage. Is there any truth to that?

I think PSB are Canadian speakers, as such would be similar to Mirage. Like I said yesterday, the JBL/Infinity brands would also be similar.
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Yes, and thanks. I don't know if I like the looks of them though?? Not sure yet. I will have to look around and see.
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I have this on my list as I have talked to some that have experienced the M-5si. B&W 683, PSB T6, NHT Absolute Tower, JBL L890. I am not close to any dealers of ANY of these speakers. I am kind of handcuffed on this but that is how I bought my Mirage M-5si, OM9, PSB Image 28. I have found some Mirage OM15 for $599. I was really wanting to know where I can buy the B&W 683??? I have heard many good things about them. I may want to look at them. Anyone know anything about them?
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The B&W, being English speakers, will not sound anything like the speakers you have now.
I have personally liked most Canadian speakers I've auditioned...just the opposite of all English speakers I have auditioned.
So be forewarned.
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I would go with the PSB Image T6.....besides the JBL, this speaker is likely to be the best 'bang' for the buck, and they look really nice too!

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4DHD really likes the JBL. Have you heard the JBL?
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The JBL L890 is a great choice, along with an LC2 center. The L8xx Series is quite nice, though the newer L5xx Series is really amazing. Between an L890 and an L590, I'd go for the L590 in a heartbeat, even though it'd be a couple hundred dollars more.

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What do you like about the L590 that makes it better? Thanks.
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What do you like about the L590 that makes it better? Thanks.

Well, the 590 are horn loaded HF. So more output. But the design is only a 2 1/2 way. Whereas the 890 is a 4 way, or a 3 way, if you do not count the ultra tweeter. There is something to be said for a true midrange driver.
I have not heard the 590, but I would have a hard time believing I would like them better than the 890.
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SO, you own the 890?
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SO, you own the 890?

I did, right now they are on their way to Japan, where my son will be the proud owner of a 5.0 Studio L system.
When I had the L890 it was for a 2.0 system, then I bought the LC2, pair of L820, to make a 5.0 system for my son's wedding present.
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fwiw,if looking for towers just a recommendation kef q900 but if you use the sub which I assume you do the kef q300's . imo no need for towers with good sub

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Yes, I have a sub. But, the 900's are over the $1500 that I want. As for aesthetics, a tower is a must for me. The Kef's really do look like a nice pair of speakers though.
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What do you like about the L590 that makes it better? Thanks.

The L590 benefits from a number of updated approaches to loudspeaker design.
  1. The cabinet design is more advanced, both in construction and layout.
  2. The single 1" compression driver is more robust and linear than the combination of a Polyplas® midrange, Ti dome and Mylar ribbon.
  3. The Array-style horn is vastly superior to the EOS Waveguide for reducing unwanted reflections, and it provides superior imaging and depth.
  4. The overall theory introduces some of JBL's most current thinking in pro designs into the consumer space at an affordable level.

Did I mention I've heard both (in the same room), and the L590 sounds better? Of course, that's just one mans' opinion. Well, make it two men's opinions, since the designer of both the L590 and L890 told me he really liked the L5xx Series. In fact he has some in his home, not as his main system (Everest II DD67000s), but as a member of the "fun to listen to because they sound so great" category.

Sadly, two L590s likely would be more than $1500, while you can probably get the very good LC2 and a pair of L890s for less.


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Well, the 590 are horn loaded HF. So more output. But the design is only a 2 1/2 way. Whereas the 890 is a 4 way, or a 3 way, if you do not count the ultra tweeter. There is something to be said for a true midrange driver.
I have not heard the 590, but I would have a hard time believing I would like them better than the 890.

John, you just like the traditional approach which is fine. Nonetheless, whether you'd have a hard time believing it or not, until you do hear an L590 you're only expressing an unfounded bias. wink.gif

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Yes, I have a sub. But, the 900's are over the $1500 that I want. As for aesthetics, a tower is a must for me. The Kef's really do look like a nice pair of speakers though.
fwiw, accessories4less( kef authorized dealer) has open box full warranty for $1300 free ship.

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Yes, I have a sub. But, the 900's are over the $1500 that I want. As for aesthetics, a tower is a must for me. The Kef's really do look like a nice pair of speakers though.
If you really like the sound of Canadian speakers, then stay away from English speakers, imo, they are not even close in sound.
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The L590 benefits from a number of updated approaches to loudspeaker design.
Did I mention I've heard both (in the same room), and the L590 sounds better? Of course, that's just one mans' opinion. Well, make it two men's opinions, since the designer of both the L590 and L890 told me he really liked the L5xx Series. In fact he has some in his home, not as his main system (Everest II DD67000s), but as a member of the "fun to listen to because they sound so great" category.

And you and I know, that Greg has always preferred horn/compression driver speakers. For the price of the 590, they better be good speakers, being they are more than the 890. And imo, the 890 is the best speaker in its price range.
So Greg now has a pair of 67000s and you bought the custom Arrays, so where did the 66000 go?
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That most certainly is true. Which is one of the reasons I use my custom212 as mains, instead of the PT800s in this concrete building (sadly they all are here). With the open cell foam around the tweeter/midrange on the 212s there is a lot less reflections than from the PT800 EOS.
The second reason, the 212s provide a better stereo soundstage, being mirror imaged.
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I recommend the Revel F12 towers.
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I recommend the Revel F12 towers.
But are they less than $1500/pr? That is what the op is looking for.
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I have also listened to Kef and really like their sound also. I have an ear that is easy to please. My taste varies with the music and the movies. Kef would be fine for me also. The best deal is what I am looking for right now and the the JBL are right up there at this point. I have found some Mirage OMD 15 for 595 though so that may be my best route. Not many of those left though.
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