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I am putting together a new setup, and I have a few questions. I recently had an orb audio mod4/mod2 system with an uber 10 sub and a pioneer 1020k receiver. This system had treated me well for several years. Well, once you get something decent in audio, the upgrade bug eventually hits. Anyway, my plan, which started about a month ago, is to slowly piece together a big-boy system with some real punch as funds allow. So, the first thing I upgraded was my sub. Although I love the Uber 10, I upgraded to an SVS pb-1000. Next, I wanted to get a good deal on an amp. So, I picked up the pio 1222-k (receiving it next week). The next step, within the next year or so, is to get the front three speakers (I will add the surrounds later). I have been doing a lot of research as to what is better to match with a quality sub, bookshelf speakers or towers, and it seems to be a mixed bag of opinions. Anyway, I narrowed it down to two options to match with the 1222k and the pb-1000.

The 1222k has a class D amp running at 120 WPC and 600 total watts output. The Sub has a FR of +-3db 19hz-270hz

Option 1

B & W 684 Towers = 90db sensitivity, 25-150 power handling, 44hz-22khz +-3db FR, and SIZE 35.8H/ 7.8W/ 11.8D/ 40.1lbs
B & W htm61 Center = 90db sensitivity, 30-250 power handling, 38hz-22khz +-3db FR, and SIZE 7.8H/ 21.5W/ 13.4D/ 34lbs

Option 2

SVS Ultra Bookshelf Speakers = 87db sensitivity, 20-150 power handling, 45hz-32khz +-3db FR, and SIZE 14.9H/ 8.5W/ 10D/ 19lbs
SVS Ultra Center = 87db sensitivity, 20-225 power handling, 45hz -32khz +-3db FR, and SIZE 8H/ 22W/ 10D/ 31lbs

Both options seem to be reviewed generally well. I plan on using this setup for 80% TV watching and Blu rays and 20% music listening. As for cost, both of these options (after tax for B and W or speaker stands for the Ultras will cost about $1800-$1900, so price is a wash. So, which setup do you think would be better for my needs paired with the 1222k and the pb-1000? I also want to run these speakers and the eventual surrounds in a 5.1 setup not 7.1. I DO NOT want to buy an external amp because I want the receiver to be able to supply all the power to make these speakers shine. I listen at moderately loud levels at most -15db is about as loud as I'll ever crank it but usually low 20's. So, let me know if either of these speaker sets are too much for this receiver, and of course if the receiver will work with both, which is the better option? Thank you for any opinions! This forum has highly intelligent people when it comes to audio and video!
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I made some posts (regarding sensitivity and your AVR power level) in the Subwoofer SVS thread where you originally posted this. But I'll keep an eye on this thread too, and answer any new questions which might come up - thanks.

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In your setup is it possible to fit three of the same speaker across the front, as in use a B&W tower or the SVS bookshelf for the center as well?
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I love my 684's, and have no problem driving them with my Yamaha A720. You'd be just fine with your 1222-k. For a center, you could probably get by with the smaller htm62. From what I've read, the ideal center would be a 685.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I will definitely need to use a conventional center channel speaker because it will be placed on a TV stand. I think one of the things I don't like about the B & W option is the center channel. Although people seem to love the 684 towers, the reviews on the center channel speakers seem to be up and down. I agree that using a 684 or a 685 for the center would probably be best, but I definitely will not have the space. As for SVS, the reviews so far seemed to shine a positive light on the center channel speaker. It's specs are very close to that of the bookshelves. I think one reviewer didn't like the Ultra center paired with the towers as much as a bookshelf paired with the towers though.
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I agree with your B&W center speaker assessment, although most of the bad press seems to be directed towards the htm61. I haven't heard much negativity directed towards the htm62.
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I agree with your B&W center speaker assessment, although most of the bad press seems to be directed towards the htm61. I haven't heard much negativity directed towards the htm62.

Yea, you're right; most of the negative criticism is aimed toward the htm61. I guess because of the higher price and size, the expectations are raised for the 61. For $425, the htm62 is probably a better value. What have you heard about this speakers ability to blend with the 684's in a home theatre setup? Is it too small to match well?
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If you go to B&W's site they have a 684 theater system. It pairs the 684's with 686 surrounds and the htm62 center. So, I guess B&W thinks they'll pair just fine!
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Bestbuy carries B&W. They have a good return policy. SVS allows a 45 day risk free trial. I say get both and listen for yourself. Not only is it fun, but then you won't look back and wish you had made a different choice.

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Don't be afraid to negotiate on the B&W's. I got about 15% off on my 684's from Magnolia.
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