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Hey guys,

I saw another recent post about best bang for the buck at $1500, but it looked like that thread had gone off the rails, so I decided to start my own. Basically, it's just like the title says: I have a $1500 budget, and I want to know how to maximize that money. The room is 14' X 18', and due to large dogs and vaulted ceilings, surround channels are not an option. The intended use will be a few hours of movies, TV shows, and music a week (in that order). We don't watch a lot of stuff, but I want it to sound decent when we do.

If I get floor speakers, I don't need a separate sub, right? I've been looking at bookshelves and a dedicated sub, but then do I need a center channel or not? I've always heard that you want the center channel for vocals, and if we're going to be watching movies and TV, wouldn't that make sense? I've also heard that if you have good enough L/R speakers, you don't need a center.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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do you have an avr or other power source? and if not is that included in the budget fwiw, imo I would recommend using a sub even if you don't watch that much t.v or music .it just makes watching movies and listening to music that much more better .its like feeling the movie compared to just watching a movie and again imo music sounds more defined with speakers crossed over with a sub.just my 2 cents

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I have an Onkyo HT-RC160 that I got as part of an HTIB, but I think I'll sell that with the HTIB speakers and get another AVR. I was kind of hoping to keep everything to within $1500, but that doesn't leave a lot of room for 2 speakers and a sub. For the receiver, I don't need 7.X or 9.X, so I was thinking Onkyo TX-NR525. I'm not locked in to Onkyo, though.
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I would start with a 2.1 system, and then add from there if you want in the future. I would recommend the Denon AVR-1713 since you don't need 7.1, it has Audyssey MultEQ XT room correction software and makes a big difference in your sound quality. They are on clearance right now and you can probably grab one at Best Buy for $300. For speakers, Ascend has some great options, and right now the CMT-340SE is on sale and a pair with stands can be had for $600. They have an in-home trial and there is no risk to see if you like them. Pair those with an SVS PB-1000 and you have a great 2.1 system to start. If you can stretch to $1550, the HSU VTF-3 MK4 would be a nice upgrade over the PB-1000.

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OK, so why Ascend over Klipsch / Polk / Cambridge / etc.? I assume you're paying for the brand name with the big boys, and by selling directly over the internet, Ascend can deliver better quality at lower prices? Looks like they have the CMT-340SE pair + B-stock stands for $568 right now (or $638 with A-stock stands).

Any reason NOT to get the matched CMT-340SE center? (I mean, other than budget... but let's say I was willing to go to $2000.)

And then why SVS for the sub rather than Ascend? And why not a ported sub?

That Denon receiver looks decent. My current Onkyo AVR has the Audyssey MultEQ, and it's pretty cool. What if I wanted to spend $400 or $500 on a receiver, though? Would the extra $200 get me anything worthwhile, or would it just get me more speaker channels?

Ascend CMT-340SE L / R / C ..... ~$1000 w/S&H
SVS PB-1000 ..... $500
TBD Receiver ..... $500
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Any reason NOT to get the matched CMT-340SE center? (I mean, other than budget... but let's say I was willing to go to $2000.)

And then why SVS for the sub rather than Ascend? And why not a ported sub?

Nope. No reason not to. The matched center is a great idea if you can afford it now, and it's one of the benefits of the Ascend speakers. The optimal front soundstage comes from three of the exact same speakers to get the perfect timbre match. Because the CMT-340 SE center is exactly the same speaker (same tweeter and same two drivers), only configured for horizontal orientation, this gives you the best timbre match short of having three exact same vertical speakers across the front.

The Rythmik subwoofers sold by Ascend are very good and comparable in quality to the HSU and SVS subs. However, there are variations in max output between the different models across those three brands.

You said you have a room with vaulted ceilings? What is the total room volume (not just area)? Does it open into other rooms? The entire room air space and any connecting spaces affect sub performance. With any of those three brands, it's important to get enough output for that space, and if you have a big space, you need a bigger, more powerful sub.

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You said you have a room with vaulted ceilings? What is the total room volume (not just area)? Does it open into other rooms? The entire room air space and any connecting spaces affect sub performance. With any of those three brands, it's important to get enough output for that space, and if you have a big space, you need a bigger, more powerful sub.

That room alone is 2500-3000 ft^3, but the floorplan is pretty open, and there's an adjoining den (no doors) and dining room/kitchen on either side of the living room. It's definitely a multi-purpose room and not a dedicated HT room.
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Internet direct (ID) companies offer a lot more value typically. If you want to stretch your budget some then yes that would be a great upgrade. For movies, your sub and center do the majority of the heavy lifting.

I chose the SVS sub because of the budget, there are other options if you can spend 600-700. That PB-1000 is ported, the SB-1000 is the sealed variant, hence the "P" and "S" in the model name.

Audyssey MultEQ XT is the next step up and is more accurate. You can head over the XX13 owner's thread and read about the differences, but to be honest there isn't a whole lot of difference until the 3313, and unless you need some specific features or better zone support, the 1713 would work well.

As cel said, you would probably benefit more from putting any extra money you want to spend into a better sub.

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With that big of a space, of the subs suggested so far, the HSU VTF-3 MK4 would be the best choice. Although at that price, the Power Sound Audio XV15 should have a little more output than the VTF-3 and would be my choice.

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I chose the SVS sub because of the budget, there are other options if you can spend 600-700. That PB-1000 is ported, the SB-1000 is the sealed variant, hence the "P" and "S" in the model name.

You're absolutely right. I was looking at the wrong model.
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Audyssey MultEQ XT is the next step up and is more accurate. You can head over the XX13 owner's thread and read about the differences, but to be honest there isn't a whole lot of difference until the 3313, and unless you need some specific features or better zone support, the 1713 would work well.

As cel said, you would probably benefit more from putting any extra money you want to spend into a better sub.

Yeah, I won't be running multiple zones in this house, and I don't even foresee that happening down the road. The most advanced setup would be 5.1, but with the current house/living room, it's unlikely.

Thanks... I'm learning a lot already.
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for your size room there are some great choices for you^^^, the ascend cmt340 se's; the denon avr 1713 and the psa xv15 sub. just my 2 cents
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OK, so everyone seems to be saying pretty much the same thing... Denon + Ascend + HSU or PSA sub. Since the Ascend fronts and HSU sub are on sale until July 4, I'll need to make up my mind within the next day or two here. And with the HSU sale, the VTF-3 is $150 cheaper than the XV15.

Ascend CMT-340SE L / R / C ..... ~$1000 w/S&H
HSU VTF-3 MK4 ..... $650
Denon AVR-1713 ..... $330
TOTAL ..... ~$2000

That puts me over my original budget of $1500, but right at my new budget of $2000. biggrin.gif
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fwiw, the psa xv15 b stock will run you $759 free ship. the hsu vtf3 mk4 will run you $650 +$100 ship.

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Hmm... I didn't realize S&H would be so expensive on the HSU unit. Regardless of price, is the XV15 a better sub?
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BTW, I'm buying A-stock everything. If I'm gonna spend $2000, I don't want scratched, dinged, and/or used units just to save $50.
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fwiw, not taking anything away from the hsu vtf3mk4 its a great sub the psa will play louder which is a plus in your size room
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Since it seems like you're set on the Onkyo, we'll just stick with that . . .


Onkyo TX-NR525: $337 shipped
Ascend Acoustics CMT-340 SE Main's: $548 shipped
Ascend Acoustics TP-24 Pedestal Stands: $178 shipped
Hsu Research VTF-2 MK-4: $596 shipped

Total OTD cost: $1,659 (once offset by the items you're selling, you should be fairly close to 1.5k)

If you really need to come in under budget, just swap in a pair of Polk Monitor 75T's ($320 shipped on sale @ Newegg), or Infinity Primus P363's (~$320 shipped on sale @ Amazon). Both are high value items that won't disappoint. As far as the subwoofer, I genuinely don't feel as though you need to step up to the VTF-3. I run one VTF-2 MK-4 in a room that's 2,571 CFT, and it's honestly more than enough. Sealed at 1/4 volume is perfect for music, and 3/8 volume with one port open is great for movies in my space. Good luck with whatever you choose!





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Since it seems like you're set on the Onkyo, we'll just stick with that . . .
Not at all! I currently have an Onkyo HTIB system that I bought more than 3 years ago, but now I'm definitely leaning toward the Denon 1713.
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I also recommend ascend speakers

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If you live near a Fry's, they are running a terrific deal on the Infinity Primus p363 towers, $107 each, that is a killer deal. Add to that the Primus center for $200, and you will have over $1k left for the sub. If you really want to maximize your money, go DIY for the sub if you have a smidgen of woodwork experience and some tools. One great subwoofer system you can make for about $1k is two of these flat pack cabinets for $240, two of these SI D4 18" drivers for maybe $450 shipped, power them both with this Behringer Europower EP2000 for $300. That gives you two high output 18" subs for less than $1k shipped. You will want to EQ them but there are different solutions for that, the most popular right now seems to be the miniDSP, however that will take you a bit over budget... If you want to stay underbudget, just get one 18" flat pack kit, driver, and the miniDSP and Umik mic. Even a single one of those 18"s will blow all other $1k options away. Two will dominate, that will make movie night something special and make all of your friends envious. It will take a bit of work to assemble those subs, but if you want bang-for-the-buck, nothing else comes even slightly close at all. If you want to keep it simple and aren't interested in a project like that, I would just go for a Hsu VTF3, that is an all-around great sub for the money.
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Building my own might be a fun project sometime down the road, but I'm going to stick with pre-built components for the time being.
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Speakers have been ordered! CMT-340 SE mains, center, and pedestal stands for $1012 out the door. Now I just need to decide on a sub and a receiver...
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B&H has the AVR-1713 for $314.98 with free S&H and no tax. Pretty good price it seems like?
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Yeah. That seems like a pretty good price since the refurbished models at Accessories4less.com are $288. Lowest price Amazon has sold it for has been $349 (according to camelcamelcamel.com).

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The only problem with B&H is that their free shipping is like a slow boat to China. Even "upgrading" to UPS ground would be $30.
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I've ordered a couple of Macs for B&H lately...

What they don't do is ship the day you ordered...so that seems to add an additional day, but they use UPS ground, and it is pretty standard from there.

When you are accustomed to Amazon shipping, it seems really slow.

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B&H also doesn't have the warehouses or vendors that Amazon has, but their customer service is stellar. I will prefer them over Amazon (or Newegg) any time the price is comparable.

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The only problem with B&H is that their free shipping is like a slow boat to China. Even "upgrading" to UPS ground would be $30.

Maybe you could have it shipped by donkey? Should be a good option considering how it is going to "The Old Pueblo" tongue.gif
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Maybe you could have it shipped by donkey? Should be a good option considering how it is going to "The Old Pueblo" tongue.gif

How long would it take a donkey to get from New York, NY to Tucson, AZ? Probably faster than B&H's free economy shipping. Or maybe that *is* their economy shipping, which would explain a lot.

It's definitely hard to wait for things to come in the mail when you're used to Amazon Prime and there's an Amazon warehouse 100 miles away. First-world problems...
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From B&H to my place in Manhattan Beach....ordered Macbook Air on Monday, it shipped on Tuesday, and I got it the following Monday.

BTW...in this case, it was my daughter that had the agonizing wait. Mine was a couple of weeks earlier. smile.gif

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