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i went to a speakers showroom, and the guy there told me that i dont need a center speaker with a built in sub at home.

I was thinking to buy the definitive CS-8060HD.. he said that such speaker is not for home theater at home.

how true is that statement, and will it really make a difference? i will use the system mainly for watching movies, playing games, and almost no music..
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I don't think you're getting very good advice, my friend. A center channel and subwoofer are both integral parts of a typical home theater.
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no no you got me wrong. the center speaker comes with a built in sub, but i will still buy a stand alone subwoofer.

it is just that i read that the center speaker is the most important speaker, so i was looking at the best center speakers at definitive and i found out that their best speakers come with built in subs.

question is, is the center speaker that come with a built in sub needed or gives an edge? or is it too much for a system at home?
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It all depends on the placement of the speaker. Since it's a top firing driver, I would say no If it's in an enclosed space like a cabinet, but it doesn't hurt to have a speaker that can go low and have the range needed for vocals.
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i went to a speakers showroom, and the guy there told me that i dont need a center speaker with a built in sub at home.
He was correct. A sub contained within the center might be useful if it had the same frequency response and output capability as your 'main' subs, but the CS-8060HD is way too small to add anything significant to what a real sub already provides.

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you mean that speaker is weak in sub power generally speaking right?

not that a cs with sub is any different from a cs without a built in subwoofer.
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I have an older Definitive with a larger built in "sub." It was made to match their main towers which also have built in powered low frequency drivers. I would not refer to it as a waste but it does add cost to a speaker that generally does not have low frequency output to it.

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you mean that speaker is weak in sub power generally speaking right?
It would be a fine match if your real subs are small eight inch loaded boxes. But small eight inch loaded boxes aren't real subs.

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Ramy... Just get whatever center is the proper matching center for your front L&R speakers. If the matching one has a sub fine and if not fine again. The most important thing is that your front 3 speakers match. Most ppl recommend crossing over your speakers to your "real" sub at 60 to 80hz so with that being the case that might make the built in sub a waste.

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I am really sorry, as i am totally ignorant, and this is my first home theater. what is "3 front speakers match" suppose to mean?

same brand, or same watt? smile.gif i have no idea
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I am really sorry, as i am totally ignorant, and this is my first home theater. what is "3 front speakers match" suppose to mean?

same brand, or same watt? smile.gif i have no idea

The front 3 speakers (L/C/R) are generally from the same manufacturer and the same series of speakers.
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Also the center should have the same size tweeter, midrange, and woofers as the front L&R speakers if possible.

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I know this is an old thread but I have the 8060 hd and for everyone's curiosity the "sub" isnt a sub but takes over at 150 hertz down to about 50 hz to fill out the spectrum needed
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