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I've been reading many other threads which have similar budgets to mine for speaker+sub purchasing and have an idea of what I might do. So here's the scoop.

I'm looking to setup either 2.1 or 3.1 for now with the thought of adding in rears for a 5.1 setup.

I will use this mainly for movies and gaming (ps3 and ps4 when it comes out). Music is taken care of at my PC with headphones/studio monitors.

I have a Pioneer sc-1222-k on the way since it's on sale from Newegg. And now I'm picking out some speakers and a sub.

It looks like HSU packages would be a good fit but I'm also very interested in a KEF Q300/600/100 setup.

Currently planning:
KEF Q300 pair - $500 @ acc4less
KEF Q600c - $450 @ acc4less
HSU VTF-15h - $879

Then add in KEF Q100 pair for rears when my wallet recovers from the initial shock smile.gif
Also - any suggestions for stands for the Q300?

Just figured I'd toss the idea out there. Would these speakers and sub with the pioneer sc-1222 be a good fit?

Or do I go for a better setup over time by starting with 2.1 with:
KEF Q900 $1300 pair @ acc4less
HSU vtf15h $879

Then add in a center channel....then rears eventually. Or would the sub kind of defeat the purpose of going to the q900?

Any input is apprciated!
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The Kef Q300 are fine speakers. I had them for about 2 months in a stereo setup but sadly my room was too big for them. Excellent clarity and accuracy, and both wide and deep soundstage, there was nothing they didn't do right (except fill a big room on their own). I think they would be a great choice for theater.

All subjective of course.

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I would not recommend those Kefs if your primary purposes are theater. If you have the ability to build some enclosures then I would highly recommend building some of the Seos speakers. They also come in a kit version that you can assemble with only a little glue and time.

Otherwise if you don't want to mess with that, I would look into buying 5 of the used, older, Klispch Hersey's. These would most definitely best the Kefs for mcvies, plus they can be had for less than $400 per pair all day long! That would leave the budge some room for duel subs, which will make a great difference in the overall movie experience.
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I would get five NHT Absolute Zero (AZ) plus the HSU (or get 3 AZ for now, then add 2 more AZ later).

The HTM-measured the listening window response of the AZ is +/- 0.9dB, which is just exquisite.
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The Kef Q300 are fine speakers. I had them for about 2 months in a stereo setup but sadly my room was too big for them. Excellent clarity and accuracy, and both wide and deep soundstage, there was nothing they didn't do right (except fill a big room on their own). I think they would be a great choice for theater.

All subjective of course.

Agreed.

Start with the Q300s. If you decide you need more, you could always then save up for the Q900s and move the Q300s to surround duty.

It's not like the Q300s would be a waste as surrounds over the Q100s. The bigger drivers would give you a little bit richer midbass out of the surrounds.

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Not a bad idea with starting with q300 then move em to rear duty.

Where would you reccommend finding the Hersheys from by chance?

The AZ setup would be a good value. $1000 for 5 and then 880 for the HSU sub.

At the $890 pricepoint - would there be any better suggestions for a sub? I do like the idea of the HSU one being a hybrid. Seems like that could come in handy.

I guess I should mention this is going in the basement which....is a relatively big space. It won't always be in this space though. I can get some dimensions when I'm home. It's kinda one entire side of the basement but I would be keeping it in a square corner space within the room itself.
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One thing you might want to consider is getting 5 of these highly regarded RHX Black Mini speakers which got a great review from Audiophile Quarterly and then tacking just a wee bit more on your budget for one of these Danley Sound Lab TH812 subwoofers, which should integrate well with the speakers due to it's rich upper mid bass articulation. The system as a whole will bring you a deep, nearly holographic sound stage with sparkling highs which nothing else can touch in its price range. Personally I wouldn't have anything less.
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I've been reading many other threads which have similar budgets to mine for speaker+sub purchasing and have an idea of what I might do. So here's the scoop.

I'm looking to setup either 3.1 for now or 5.1. I'm fine with doing 3.1 then adding in rears later.

I will use this mainly for movies and gaming (ps3 and ps4 when it comes out). Music is taken care of at my PC with headphones/studio monitors.

I have a Pioneer sc-1222-k on the way since it's on sale from Newegg. And now I'm picking out some speakers and a sub.

It looks like HSU packages would be a good fit but I'm also very interested in a KEF Q300/600/100 setup.

Currently planning:
KEF Q300 pair - $500 @ acc4less
KEF Q600c - $450 @ acc4less
HSU VTF-15h - $879

Then add in KEF Q100 pair for rears when my wallet recovers from the initial shock smile.gif

Also - any suggestions for stands for the Q300?

Just figured I'd toss the idea out there. Would these speakers and sub with the pioneer sc-1222 be a good fit?

Or do I go for a better setup over time by starting with 2.1 with:
KEF Q900 $1300 pair @ acc4less
HSU vtf15h $879

Then add in a center channel....then rears eventually. Or would the sub kind of defeat the purpose of going to the q900?

Any input is apprciated!

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I think I'd make a halo to hang 10 of those off of. Now that's surround sound.
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Distance wise probably around 10-12ft from my tv.

It's a finished basement with carpet. The space itself is almost like a sideways J or U without a bit of one side. I'll have to sketch it up to make it more clear.

Id have my setup in one corner and basically section off a square area for this stuff.
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At the $890 pricepoint - would there be any better suggestions for a sub? I do like the idea of the HSU one being a hybrid. Seems like that could come in handy.

I think that's more useful for marketing than actually a great feature. Most sub drivers I have seen have different enclosure sizes when optimized for sealed vs. ported. I suspect that the HSU subs are optimized for ported use.

That sub is over $1000 shipped. If you want a good high output sealed sub, for a little more, you could go with the Power Sound Audio XS30.

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Lol I totally forgot about shipping. So used to it being free everywhere. Yeah going to the PSA XS30 for a tiny cost increase looks to be good choice. Thanks for pointing that out smile.gif
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I would not recommend those Kefs if your primary purposes are theater..

This is the first such feedback I've heard. Why not?

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This is the first such feedback I've heard. Why not?

KEF rates the Q300 @ 110dB SPL.

I think they will be great for movies unless the person sits 30 ft away. biggrin.gif
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Yeah I don't think I'll be in a room that size anytime soon hah.

The section that will be cornered off so to speak is probably around 14'x12' but can be changed up however I want really. I may rotate it around and be able to make it more of a rectangle which may end up working out better.

So right now I'm considering the PSA XS30 for $1150 shipped or possibly the PSA XS15 for $750 (or $800 w/ base).

Gonna have to look up some stores and have a listen this weekend.
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