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I have a 52" space to install a TV and left front, center and right front speakers.

I am buying the Sharp 757u 80" LCD TV and that takes up 42" so now I'm left with about 10" for the center and maybe left and right if I want to put them under the TV instead of to the sides.

I am considering the B&W CM Centre and CM Centre 2 for all 3 speakers, but I haven't been able to demo either.

So now I'm curious and looking for input on how superior the CMC2 is to the CMC???

And is anyone on this forum using the CMC for LCR duties instead of just center?

My listening will be about 70% TV/movies and 30% music.

And I'm open to suggestions for any other 10" high and 12" deep speakers (not really concerned with width at this point).

Thanks for any input!
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Does anyone have any feedback at all on the CM Centre or CM Centre 2?
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I only clicked on this thread cuz I was curious to know what a CNC speaker was...you might want to edit your title. Yes, the 2 is much better than the smaller center. It is the difference of a 2-way vs. the 3-way with the FST mid.

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Thanks, Brian. I took your advice.
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Is B&W not very popular around here?
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My sense is that B&W is perceived as good on this forum but not a great value. I have B&W in-ceiling and they perform well. I am looking at KEF R series for LCR duty. Still expensive but a better value than CM series IMO.

I would post your question on the dedicated B&W thread. You may get a better response.
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I would post your question on the dedicated B&W thread. You may get a better response.

+ 1

Also, I've seen folks using three towers or three book shelves as an L/C/R but not three center speakers. That's not to say it can't be done smile.gif

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Intuition also tells me that three book shelf speakers or towers would work better than three MTM center speakers. I´m currently using three CM5s for front L/C/R in my bedroom system.

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The CM Centre 2 is a WtmW design, with a 350hz crossover from the woofers to mid. It will work fine as a horizontal LCR.

A 350hz wavelength is 3.2 ft, both woofers are operating well under that distance from each other. Lobbing will be extremely minimal.
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A few years ago I was in the market I was considering CM9s and did a lot of research. At that time I found the CMC2 was regarded quite well but the not so much the CMC. Would recommend the CMC2.

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My sense is that B&W is perceived as good on this forum but not a great value. I have B&W in-ceiling and they perform well. I am looking at KEF R series for LCR duty. Still expensive but a better value than CM series IMO.

I would post your question on the dedicated B&W thread. You may get a better response.
I agree on all points. I had a Kef system but choose B&W ceilings as I believe they are the better speakers. Also concur on R series over CM. And you will get better response in the B&W thread.

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If I were setting up a music only system with just one or two seats (i.e. a narrow listening area) I would strongly consider the B&W CM series. But for a combination of HT and music I would recommend the KEF R series - same great detail/mid-range as the B&W's but to my ears the KEF's have better imaging with a wider soundstage. The B&W centers, again to my ears, have been a weak link in the B&W line for a long time, while the KEF Q and R centers are among the better horizontal centers I've heard (often wondered if it had something to do with the concentric tweeter/midrange driver ...).

That being said, of course I've heard a notable exception ... a friend has three B&W PM-1's LCR across the front (with CM5's as surrounds) and it sounds just plain amazing. Loads of fun to watch a movie at his place wink.gif
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Run three LS50s or better yet five.

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The CM Centre 2 is a WtmW design, with a 350hz crossover from the woofers to mid. It will work fine as a horizontal LCR.

A 350hz wavelength is 3.2 ft, both woofers are operating well under that distance from each other. Lobbing will be extremely minimal.

Cool, thanks for setting me straight. wink.gif

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Once again, I thank you all for the info. I will look at KEF more and hop on over to the B&W thread.
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