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Hello everyone,

I wanted some advice - I am in the market for one of these two systems. The Polk TL 1600 can be had for $199 and the Energys for $270. Which is the better buy? Is there a huge difference between the two? While I know buying stand alone, higher grade speakers, is the better option, in my case I do not have the budget to do so. Thank you for your input!

Oh I would also like to add the MartinLogan MLT-2 can be had for $180.

So of these 3, which is the best buy?

MLT-2: $180
TL1600: $200
ETC: $270
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Thanks Valtyr for your reply. Can you tell me more about why you would pick the Energy?

I've read so many threads (due to the fact the MLT-2 and T1600 don't have very many reviews out) comparing two or more of these together. Ancedotal evidence has shown any of these 3 to be ahead. However, I hear alot of people on this board recommend the MLT-2 over the ETC. And some have said Polk > ETC; ETC>Polk, ETC>MLT-2. I'm hesitant about the MLT-2 because of the pervasive subwoofer issue. But the $70-$90 difference is significant...that's about about a 35% difference in price. Is there a major reason why the ETCs would be better?
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I have heard and enjoyed the ETC set and I think they're quite good. I would take just about anything over Polk because I have bad experiences with their low end products. I have no information on MLT-2; however I would take them over polk specifically because I don't like Polk.

Are you set on a 5.1 system? Have you considered just getting two better bookshelf speakers that would likely outperform the entire setup?

If you went the two bookshelf way you'd want to get a subwoofer at some point, but I think you'd be better off with a set of Cambridge Audio S30's smile.gif
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I had another thought...

If you are patient you could get an Infinity Primus P363 set for $200 or close. I bought mine a few years back for $99 each from Frys. They just had them for $107 a week ago. Anyway, those towers would cover everything and more that any of these sets could do. Although the aforementioned S30's sound much better to me. I had P363's filling a 3500^ft for a few years before I filled in the remaining pieces of the entire system.
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I had another thought...

If you are patient you could get an Infinity Primus P363 set for $200 or close. I bought mine a few years back for $99 each from Frys. They just had them for $107 a week ago. Anyway, those towers would cover everything and more that any of these sets could do. Although the aforementioned S30's sound much better to me. I had P363's filling a 3500^ft for a few years before I filled in the remaining pieces of the entire system.

The room is too small for towers.
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Unfortunate!

Did you have a chance to look at S30's?
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Unfortunate!

Did you have a chance to look at S30's?

I have, but due to the fact my budget on speakers is sub-300, and I would like to get a 5.1 system for this room (for the main room, I will be willing to spend much more at a later date), I have not looked into it.
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Well, I'd put them in this order in that case

ETC
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Thanks Val. Any other opinions?
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Anyone at all! I really appreciate the help guys. Gotta make the decision relatively quickly.
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Anyone at all! I really appreciate the help guys. Gotta make the decision relatively quickly.
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Any reason why you want to buy satellite speakers or a home theater in a box?


Why not hold a little bit on a complete 5.1 and start with a pair of good speakers?



There is not so much difference between one satellite home theater in a box vs another satellite home theater in a box.


If you still want the home theater in a box then choose the one that will cost you less.


The martin logan for $180

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Budget constraints and because I really do not want to invest more than $300 for this room. I have a main living room where money will be less of an object. But for this room, anything sub 300, that's 5.1, is what I'm after. I do understand there is a significant drop off...but it's such a small room that I think Sats may be sufficient enough at this time. In addition these 5.1 systems are so dirt cheap, apparently, that I wouldn't have too much of an issue replacing them in the future should I need to upgrade. The MLT-2s, for example, are about as expensive as 1 really decent floor tower (which unfortunately I have no room for). Of these 3, unless you feel that I'm missing another boxed set, which do you believe is better. The more I read, the more I'm beginning to lean toward the MLT-2. The only thing that has me hesitant is the sub issue. But at $180, it's hard to resist.
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Sorry I edited my post read it again reload the page.


The martin logan system looks like a rebranded paradigm system.

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Losser, I keep reading how they are rebranded CT 90s....is that good? The ct 90s appear to be an 11 year old system. Do they still compare favorably to the Energies and TL1600 of the last few years?
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Energy Takes have been around since 1997. First the Take 5, then Take 5.2 and finally Take Classic. Not much difference from the original Takes and the Classics.

You can only do so much with a satellite speaker.

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Still satellite speakers with 3" drivers. Not gonna be much different than the others.

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I think you're right. OP, go with the cheapest or the one you like the most aesthetically, you're getting about the same thing all around.
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The drivers in the MLT-2 fronts are 4.5 right? Does that make a significant difference?
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Buy five of these for $300 and save up for a sub.

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The drivers in the MLT-2 fronts are 4.5 right? Does that make a significant difference?

No difference

If you want better bass you will have to go with bookshelf speakers.

Satellites speakers have to be setup between 120hz and up.

Many Bookshelf speakers can go down to 80hz.
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Thank you all for your replies. I ended up getting both the MLT-2 and the Energy Take Classic. The Polks were also ordered, but I may cancel before they ship. I've noticed a few key differences. The highs on the Energy seem to be better details and overall the sounds seem far more crisp. The MLT-2 seems to have more detail in the mids, and has a stronger bass, but I'm really missing the details in the highs. Could this be a setting error on my part?
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Also remember the Energy's need time to break in. They just get better with age! I recently bought a set of the Andrew Jones Pioneer FS 52 towers to try as front main's with my Take Classic system. Broke em' in for a few days, then AB'ed them. Wound up taking them back....the Energy's had much better upper mid and high end detail.....just more pleasant to listen to in my opinion.
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You liked the Take Classic better than the FS-52? Really?

Guess that's why we all have different preferences.

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Yep...at low to moderate listening levels with the system switched to the stereo mode and playing music via Pandora or CD's I could literately hear things such as wire brush on cymbal or acoustic guitar "string squeak" that I could not hear on the Pioneers without getting very close to the speakers. I really wanted to like the Pioneer FS 52's....They are more forward sounding, have a great sound stage and great off-axis response, but I was disappointed with the upper end detail and crispness as compared to the Energy's. I guess it boils down to what we want from our systems. In our case it's movies in the evenings or at night and most importantly, background music in stereo during the day. Hey, that's why this hobby is fun!
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Remember to re run auto calibration on each HT system.

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dlh2 you like the energy satellites more than the pioneer floor standing FS-52? eek.gif

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Remember to re run auto calibration on each HT system.

I'll re run the EZ EQ setup again for the MLT-2. However, I ran the auto calib the ONLY time w/ the MLT-2, while the Energies were tested first and third without the set up and seemed to perform better. I really want to like the MLT-2 more (as it saves me some cash lol!)...am I missing anything with regards to why the detail is missing in the highs for the MLT-2?

I've been running Logic 7 Movie Mode for both sets. My receiver is an HK AVR 1650.
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