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post #61 of 75 Old 08-28-2013, 11:49 AM
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In your situation you will be listen to only 15% music ,I recommend to spend more on subs and less on speakers.

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Ok - I've narrowed it down to these three choices. If they are all really similar and I'll be happy with any choice...that's fine!

Please keep in mind - mostly using for gaming / movies (little music). Also - I completely understand "upgradeitis (I race motorcycles) but I fully intend to keep these speakers for 5,6,7 yrs. I may add another sub in the future If I think it would make a big difference.

1 - HSU Hyrbrid 15 - 5.1 package - $1550


2) - Ascend 340's for LCR and 170's for surrounds. - $1150
Power Sound sub XV15 $800
$1,950


3)
Infinity Primus P163 - L&R - $180
PC 351 - Center - $200
P153 $180
Rythmik F15- Sub - $1200

$1,760

I'll be spending another $500 on a receiver. From what I've read so far alot of people like the HSU and Ascend - really a preference thing over quality. Haven't read as much on the Infinity's..

SO - What should it be?? Package 1, 2, or 3???
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The HSU speakers probably have a little bigger soundstage than the Ascends. The Ascends are known for excellent midrange and very good midbass. That Power Sound Audio sub will destroy the VTF-1 in that Hybrid 1 package in low frequency extension (great for movies) and maximum output, and is likely a better sounding sub in SQ as well. You'd have to step up to the Hybrid 3 package to get a comparable sub.

I own the CBM-170 SEs, so I'd go with the CMT-340 SEs because I'd love to have the six 6.5" drivers across the front. However, people like both the HSU and Ascend speaker setups.

Rythmik F15 is a sealed sub. Better SQ than the PSA XV-15, but won't have near the maximum output. For a system that is not mainly music, I'd go with the XV-15 for the better impact.

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The HSU speakers probably have a little bigger soundstage than the Ascends. The Ascends are known for excellent midrange and very good midbass. That Power Sound Audio sub will destroy the VTF-1 in that Hybrid 1 package in low frequency extension (great for movies) and maximum output, and is likely a better sounding sub in SQ as well. You'd have to step up to the Hybrid 3 package to get a comparable sub.

I own the CBM-170 SEs, so I'd go with the CMT-340 SEs because I'd love to have the six 6.5" drivers across the front. However, people like both the HSU and Ascend speaker setups.

Rythmik F15 is a sealed sub. Better SQ than the PSA XV-15, but won't have near the maximum output. For a system that is not mainly music, I'd go with the XV-15 for the better impact.

Thanks for the reply!

So would you (personally) rule out the Infinity's?

EDIT - the HSU Hybrid 15 package includes a VTF-15H sub, not a VTF-1
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Thanks for the reply!

So would you (personally) rule out the Infinity's?

EDIT - the HSU Hybrid 15 package includes a VTF-15H sub, not a VTF-1

Ooppss. Sorry. I thought you listed the Hybrid 1 package. LOL

Good guess that the VTF-15H and XV-15 might be somewhat comparable (not sure). If you start a thread in the AVS subwoofer forum, I'm sure you could stimulate a battle over which would be better biggrin.gif

I personally wouldn't go for the Primus. But I've never heard the towers.
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I have both the Hsu and Infinity speakers. They are both good, but if I had to keep one, I'll take the Hsus. They can stay clean at louder levels, and they aren't as fatiguing to listen to for long periods. The Primus have a bit more detailed treble though, but weaker bass. If you set the Hsus up right, they have a nice big wide sound stage.

One way to make your money go far is with kits. There are some great affordable kits out there which are very easy and simple to put together and whose performance will surpass anything at the same price point. Here is one very high performance and very low cost speaker: Zaph 5.3 and the 5.3 center. The measured performance on those things are just excellent, and assembly would be a cinch. Also check out some of the kits on this page. Many of those would be excellent for the price.

A terrific speaker setup would be three of these curved gloss black speakers for your front stage. They look gorgeous and will have terrific performance. Assembly is very easy, just watch the video on the product page. You don't need any fancy tools, and it would take maybe an hour at the most, it is not a big project to put those together.

You can get some great subwoofer kits as well. Check this sub out. With that kit, you get two high quality drivers, a nice beefy amp, and a very inert cabinet. Nothing under $1k will beat that. The sound quality would be just terrific. Again, don't be put off by a tiny bit of assembly, it's very easy to put together.

There are other, much higher bang for the buck speaker and subwoofer projects than those, but they are a lot more involved in construction. The ones I listed above are very easy kits and can't really be considered DIY projects. However, if you have a little bit of woodworking skills and have the necessary tools to put cabinets together, you can have something better than any of those, and tremendously better than any finished speaker or sub of the same price. That's something to think about if you intend to keep this stuff with you for a long time. If you are interested in that, I can point you to other projects or you can take a look around the DIY section for ideas.
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SO - What should it be?? Package 1, 2, or 3???

How about a slight twist on your choices and do something like this (because I'm a fan of dual subs!):

Speakers: 5.0 Hsu Research HB-1 MKII - $759
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/speakerpkg.html

Subwoofers: 2 ea. Rythmik LV12R - (2 x $598) - $1070 (incl. multi-unit discount)
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/LV12R.html

Then for a receiver...
Receiver: Denon AVR-X2000 -
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2000-In-command-7-1-Channel-Networking/dp/B00CALM2KS/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1377640345&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=denon+avr-x2000

(or the Onkyo 818 that arnyk recommended)

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Then for a receiver...
Receiver: Denon AVR-X2000 -
http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X2000-In-command-7-1-Channel-Networking/dp/B00CALM2KS/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1377640345&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=denon+avr-x2000

(or the Onkyo 818 that arnyk recommended)


Or if this post is true, the Denon X2000 is available for a pretty darn good price -
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1488402/denon-avr-x2000-499-95-at-frys

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UPDATE:

Chose to go with:

Ascend 340's for LCR and 170's for surrounds.
Power Sound XV15 (will save for a 2nd one)
Denon AVR-X2000

Total was just under $2,400

Super pumped to get it all hooked up and listen for the first time!

Thanks again everybody for the feedback!
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very cool, let us know if you liked it

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That's awesome. Definitely let us know your impressions smile.gif

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TJames03 - Please update with your findings after you get everything set up. I am in a very similar situation, so I am curious to hear your feedback.
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I certainly will report back with as much detail as i can!

I started a new thread, but i need to know which wire / connectors are needed/suggested to hook everything up...

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Speakers shipped out from ascend yesterday!

Sub and receiver have just been sitting quietly in a corner.

My basement is taking longer to finish then anticipated (go figure)...so probably won't have everything mounted up and ready for a few weeks.

Can't wait to actually hear these things!

I'm hoping for a pleasant surprise since I'm currently using a 5yr old Panasonic home theater in a box setup... smile.gif

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I'm hoping for a pleasant surprise since I'm currently using a 5yr old Panasonic home theater in a box setup... smile.gif

You ought to at least set up a pair of the speakers and a sub wherever you currently have your HTIB setup. Should sound much better smile.gif

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