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Hi All,

So I'm renting a condo - and the landlord added speaker cables (for his own Bose soundsystem) into the drywall of the place. They seem to be a connection for a specific soundsystem though - I haven't seen this type of cord before. I have an Infinity Beta set (just uses normal speaker cables). Is there any converter that would let me connect to this sound system? It would be nice to have the cabling run behind the dry wall if possible.

An image of the cables is (hopefully attached).

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Just cut off the ends and you'l have regular speaker wire.

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Could work - though I'd have to run that back to the landlord (who I assume might still move back here in a few years, and want his speaker setup). If I could find something that attaches to them - I could certainly cut the end off those and feed them into my speakers though.
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Maybe you can stick a piece of copper into the hole, then you can solder speaker wire to the copper.
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why don't you tie new speaker wire to that one, pull it through from the other end and voila. Then if your landlord wants it reversed, just pull the old one back through the same way.
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Had thought about that one -- (and it seems like the best idea thus far) -- only worry is that the cable might do something weird behind the dry wall...... But I think i might give it a shot.

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Yeah I could see that big plastic thing snagging or simply not fitting through some hole up there. Can it not be removed/opened? The shell casing of the plug bit I mean. Surely it must open somehow? Maybe mess around with that. If you break it then well you've gone and done it anyway and you'll just have to own up to the landlord and might as well strip the wire cover and hook your speakers up smile.gif

What's he gonna do evict you over a speaker wire? wink.gif
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Hi All,

So I'm renting a condo - and the landlord added speaker cables (for his own Bose soundsystem) into the drywall of the place. They seem to be a connection for a specific soundsystem though - I haven't seen this type of cord before. I have an Infinity Beta set (just uses normal speaker cables). Is there any converter that would let me connect to this sound system? It would be nice to have the cabling run behind the dry wall if possible.

An image of the cables is (hopefully attached).


What's the chance that this is part of a fire alarm or smoke alarm system?
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What's the chance that this is part of a fire alarm or smoke alarm system?

About zero. Those devices all use bare wire for the connection, not a proprietary connector.

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About zero. Those devices all use bare wire for the connection, not a proprietary connector.
Totally incorrect. All smoke alarm manufacturers use a proprietary connector. I've installed dozens. The connector is pigtailed onto the bare wire.

If you have any slack in the wire, then just cut it back a ways, six inches to a foot, and splice your own speaker wire onto that. When it comes time to leave, re splice the old connectors back on. Easy peasy.

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Totally incorrect. All smoke alarm manufacturers use a proprietary connector. I've installed dozens. The connector is pigtailed onto the bare wire.

If you have any slack in the wire, then just cut it back a ways, six inches to a foot, and splice your own speaker wire onto that. When it comes time to leave, re splice the old connectors back on. Easy peasy.

And it is all right there together in the same box. It has to be per code. You do not have proprietary runs of cable for smoke detectors or heat detectors. Not supposed to have a splice in a wall if there is not a junction box.

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And it is all right there together in the same box. It has to be per code. You do not have proprietary runs of cable for smoke detectors or heat detectors. Not supposed to have a splice in a wall if there is not a junction box.

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On commercial property, most everything we did used Simplex. Simplex used a base that had bare wire connections and then the device, smoke alarm, heat detector or carbon monoxide sensor, connected to the base.

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The condo is residential, not commercial. You're correct that it is regular wire and nothing special, and the union between the two has to be in the J box. But the smoke detectors won't work unless you use their connectors.

I wasn't talking about splicing the wires in the wall, the splice would be outside the wall.

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Whoops - didn't log in for a bit.

Definitely are speaker cables - landlord told us he had them installed himself for his speakers, which he said were Bose. There are three, a center and two fronts on either side -- they go out to a single hole which is where the TV is set up.

Edit: Just confirmed from the Landlord that they were "Bose lifestyle"
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And here we go!

http://bosenordic.com/index.php/file/4620/

Page 16 part 193145-14

And here is the cable which does the opposite of what I need (takes bare speaker cable and transfers it to Bose cable):

http://www.amazon.com/Bose-AC-2-Speaker-Connector-White/dp/B00076TBF2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1377826739&sr=1-1&keywords=bose+AC-2+wire
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Sucks that you have to buy 10 of those things.

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