Originally Posted by flyng_fool
if you bothered reading the links, you would have read about the science that was done by actual audio engineers that backs up my claim.. You have zero science to back up your claim, just opinion.
Lots of back and forth here but plenty that support both sides.
And apples to apples doesn't mean any 200 watt amp vs any 200 watt amp. You can't just pic what will sound the same because they both aren't junk, Amps can and do sound different and some amps do sound the same. But there are cases they can sound the same or should.
As gene points out in my copied quote. Two amps same power rating sounding night and day different.
"Yet it’s not just clipping behavior that distinguishes the sound of one amplifier from another. Many people swear that there is a fundamental difference in the overall tonal quality between amps, that, indeed, their ‘color’ or ‘character’ differs from each other.
Here’s another great anecdotal example: Many years ago we were listening to our latest albums on a very high-quality (for that time) system—a top-of-the-line Kenwood integrated amplifier (rated at 60/60 wpc RMS with vanishingly low distortion), AR-3a speakers and a Dual 1249 turntable with a Shure V15 cartridge. Highly-regarded equipment, operating well within its intended performance environment.
My friend had just purchased a Dynaco ST-120 power amplifier (60/60 wpc RMS) and he wanted to make sure it worked properly, so he brought it over. The Kenwood had pre-out/main-in jacks, so we used the Kenwood as the preamp. The speakers, turntable, cartridge, and speaker wires remained the same. The only change in the system was the power amp.
We weren’t looking to “compare” the power amps’ sound, we were only looking to confirm that the Dyna worked.
We played the original system, then we swapped in the Dyna and played the same material.
The Dyna worked, but the difference in sound character was stunning. Stunning. We raised and lowered the volume. The differences persisted at all levels. We reconnected the Kenwood and re-listened. Then we re-connected the Dyna again.
Now, remember, originally we weren’t consciously looking for differences in their sound, but it was so obvious that it just hit the two of us over the head like a ton of bricks. It was so obvious and apparent that we spent the rest of the night listening to all manner of records, first on the Kenwood, then on the Dyna, and over and over.
There might be several explanations for the differences, but they were real, without question.
Oh, just for the record, the Kenwood (a more modern design) was much “tighter” and “more controlled” in the bass, while the Dyna was “flabby” and “loose” by comparison. Night and day."