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Hi guys!

So I'm building a small home theater and I was wondering what the best 5.1 set up w/ receiver would be for my price range of roughly $1200-1500. I'm new to theater set ups, but I do love sound quality coming from an appreciation of headphones. I know this is a pretty tight budget, so I could really use some help!

The set up would be connected to an 80 inch TV, and the room itself measures roughly 20x15 ft. Also, the speakers may need to be installed in the walls due to cabling.

I'd really appreciate any advice I could get.

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So far I've had the MartinLogan 4 (L/R) and the MartinLogan 8 recommended to me. Anyone here have experience with these, and/or have any similar recommendations?
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Also, the receiver recommended is the Onkyo NR515. Likewise, any thoughts with the current suggestions as a whole?
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After browsing through avs I stumbled upon a set up of Infinity ps363 and Infinity pc351. Anyone know how these compare to the build I previously listed?

I was also looking through subs and saw the Klipsch Rw12d, but it seems to be out of stock wherever I search. Any suggestions on a sub of this level/ price range?
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If the speakers really need to be installed in wall you need completely different speakers.

Do you mean "in wall" or "on the wall" with mounting brackets? Those infinities are deep speakers, you not putting those in a wall.

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The rooms still in the process of construction, and I'm new to home theaters so I'm really just gauging the best course of action right now. The cabling will be run through the walls, so it really could be mounted or floor standing. Sorry for not explaining more thoroughly!
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In that price range...
Pioneer Andrew jones series
Infinity primus p363
Polk monitor series
Ascend acoustic 170s

Set up #1: EMP e5ti, e5Ci, and SLS Q line Audio surrounds, EMP 10i10i sub
Set up #2: Def Tech SM450, CLR2002, SLS Qline surrounds and Klipsch 12wD sub
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Four Andrew jones pioneer bookshelves and a center.

Denon 1713 from accessories for less. Has Audyssey multeq xt.

Two svs pb1000 subs.

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Thanks for all the suggestions. How's the Yamaha RX V673 vs the denon 1713? The Yamaha is only $50 more on amazon new.
http://www.amazon.com/Cimo-Hybrid-Hard-Cover-Bumper/dp/B00C6POWME/ref=sr_1_48?ie=UTF8&qid=1379287199&sr=8-48&keywords=Htc+one+case
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The 1713 is a better deal IMO. The Yamy won't EQ your sub(s)

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So far, the rig I'm thinking of going with would be the Infinity ps363 (L/R) ~$400, Infinity pc351 (C) ~ $200, Yamaha RXV673 ~$400, pair of Andrew Jones pioneer bookshelves for the surround ~ $90, and the Polk psw10 ~ $100.

Any comments or changes I should be aware of with this set up?
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So far, the rig I'm thinking of going with would be the Infinity ps363 (L/R) ~$400, Infinity pc351 (C) ~ $200, Yamaha RXV673 ~$400, pair of Andrew Jones pioneer bookshelves for the surround ~ $90, and the Polk psw10 ~ $100.

Any comments or changes I should be aware of with this set up?

The system I listed would blow that out if the water

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If you want to go with Infinity all around you could get the P143 as surrounds.
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-P143-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B0044D3R7M

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So following your recommendation I should go with:
1. 2 pairs of the Pioneers for the L/R and surround. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer---4%26%2334%3B-Bookshelf-Speakers-(Pair)/5086955.p?id=1218610014045&skuId=5086955)
2. Denon AVR-1713 5.1 instead of the Yamaha 673(http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1713-Networking-Receiver-Outputs/dp/B007R8U5W6)
3. 2 PB-1000 Subs (http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/pb-1000#.UjZat8akq24)

What center would go with this rig? and is the focus on the subs better than putting a little more into the fronts?
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So following your recommendation I should go with:
1. 2 pairs of the Pioneers for the L/R and surround. (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Pioneer---4%26%2334%3B-Bookshelf-Speakers-(Pair)/5086955.p?id=1218610014045&skuId=5086955)
2. Denon AVR-1713 5.1 instead of the Yamaha 673(http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-1713-Networking-Receiver-Outputs/dp/B007R8U5W6)
3. 2 PB-1000 Subs (http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/pb-1000#.UjZat8akq24)

What center would go with this rig? and is the focus on the subs better than putting a little more into the fronts?

I think that's a little one sided spending that much of your budget on subs unless bass is super important to you. Good subs, but I think many people starting out would be very happy with one of them. Then add another down the road in a year or so smile.gif

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I think that's a little one sided spending that much of your budget on subs unless bass is super important to you. Good subs, but I think many people starting out would be very happy with one of them. Then add another down the road in a year or so smile.gif

+1

For starting out I'd go with one sub (the PB1000 is a nice, long term keeper sub).

If your budget has any flexibility I'd suggest upgrading your speakers before getting a second sub. The Ascend 170's mentioned earlier, or the Arx A1b's would both be worthy upgrades. Both of those speakers take you more into "long term" purchase vs the Pioneers, which are fantastic for the price but more of a "starter" speaker (i.e. more likely to feel the need to upgrade sooner with the Pioneers).
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Lets offer some other speaker options.
I suggest 5 identical speakers - or buy 3 pair and go 6.1.
NHT super zero
Cambridge Audio S20 or S30
ARX A1b (I've not heard these, going on reputation).

1 sub to start, the PB is a solid choice.

ps none of these are in-wall.
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FWIW - the Cambridge Audio S30's are discounted to $170 a pair right now at accessories4less. (Also, the S30's are less than 9" tall, easy to use one as a center.)
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Lets offer some other speaker options.
I suggest 5 identical speakers - or buy 3 pair and go 6.1.
NHT super zero
Cambridge Audio S20 or S30
ARX A1b (I've not heard these, going on reputation).

1 sub to start, the PB is a solid choice.

ps none of these are in-wall.
Haha I definitely made a mistake asking for in-walls.

Those all seem like great choices. How would I go about configuring the layout of a 6.1 rig of identical speakers? Is it just the same as a typical 5.1 but with a pair instead of a single as the center? Also, would it be fine, say, using a pair of the Cambridge s30s as the center coupled with either 2 pairs of the nht superzero or arx a1b for the L/R & surround, or would having all identical speakers match up better?
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FWIW - the Cambridge Audio S30's are discounted to $170 a pair right now at accessories4less. (Also, the S30's are less than 9" tall, easy to use one as a center.)
Unfortunately, the site says they're sold out. frown.gif
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I think that's a little one sided spending that much of your budget on subs unless bass is super important to you. Good subs, but I think many people starting out would be very happy with one of them. Then add another down the road in a year or so smile.gif

I don't think it is one sided. It's not a small room and it sounds like it will be mostly movies/TV. Crossing over at 80, bookshelves will work well. I have the towers and they are as good as towers I have spent three times as much on so don't cut the pioneers short. The sub system is the most important part when building for movies/TV IMO. With that budget that room and that use. That is what I would do.

And here is the center that matches the bookshelves

http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-SP-C22-Designed-Channel-Speaker/dp/B008NCD2EI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1379332612&sr=8-3&keywords=Andrew+jones

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+1 on the Denon AVR-1713, and SVS PB-1000. With those out the way, you have ~$750 for speakers. A lot of good suggestions so far, I will also suggest HTD Level Three, very well reviewed and they look pretty sharp.

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fwiw, another monkey wrench to throw in; the denon avr 1713 and the hsu hybrid 1 5.1 packagehttp://www.hsuresearch.com/products/hybrid1pkg.html or the hybrid 2 3.1 package and a pair of the pioneer bs22 bookshelves for surround

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6.1 is 5.1 with a 6th in the center of the back. 3 across the front, 2 sides and one back.

If you plan to hang on the wall, you do NOT want rear ported.

One Sub is PLENTY to get started in this budget range. There are massive base-heads on this site, who I respect greatly if you want a room to thump.
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6.1 is 5.1 with a 6th in the center of the back. 3 across the front, 2 sides and one back.

If you plan to hang on the wall, you do NOT want rear ported.

One Sub is PLENTY to get started in this budget range. There are massive base-heads on this site, who I respect greatly if you want a room to thump.

the two subs are more for better bass, not necessarily MORE bass.

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Really appreciate all the comments.

Right now I have my wallet set on 1 of the SVS pb1000s and the denon 1713. Another pb1000 can be added later if needed just so I can accommodate my current budget with some longer term front and surrounds.

As for the set up I'm looking into the 6.1 build as suggested. If I jump on the bookshelf speakers would it be better to mount the L/R and back, or should I get stands?
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preferrably on stands so they can be away from the wall. 80Hz crossover makes it less critcal but it does still help.

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That's why a lot of people end up getting towers. The bookshelf speakers on stands take up the same space and end up not being a whole lot cheaper after you buy the stands.

If your only getting one sub for now, I would get towers for your mains.

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Hmm I see what you mean. What towers would you recommend then? Given the same budget for the front + however much stands typically are?
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If you were to get the HTD Level 3 bookshelves for example, they sell matching stands for $130, but you can easily get a pair of Sanus stands off Amazon for $60. With budget speakers the difference in towers and bookshelves is closer price wise, but as you move up the value of booksheves + sub increases.

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