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I am building a Home Theater and i would like to hear an opinion from all the members that can help me decide.

I've heard Klipsch RF-7II and Revel F208, but with different amps.

The Revel seemed to be a much superior speaker, i don't know if the amp made the difference. I am tempted to go with Revel in Piano Black.

Since it's a living room i must put a speaker that is beautiful also.
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I've heard both. I've owned the klipch rf-82 and revel m105. The win goes to the Revel, no contest. The Revel is about is good as they get.

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Yeah, Revel unequivocally all the way. biggrin.gif

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The Kef R900 would be one of the only other speakers I would consider in comparison to the F208 and that would simply be a preference / room thing. Revel would be my choice based on the OP's selection options.

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The Kef R900 would be one of the only other speakers I would consider in comparison to the F208 and that would simply be a preference / room thing. Revel would be my choice based on the OP's selection options.

Absolutely. KEF R900 & Revel F208. They are a toss-up. Almost like twins. biggrin.gif
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The R900 is a great recommendation. I'd still have to give the very slight nod to the Revel because of the wider dispersion.

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The R900 is a great recommendation. I'd still have to give the very slight nod to the Revel because of the wider dispersion.

I would prefer to buy the JBL LS80 in a second compared to Kef R Series. I like Kef, but for Home Theater is much better Revel or JBL Synthesis.
The JBL Synthesis LS Series are also speakers for me to consider...they have the "boom factor" extremelly important to make movies come alive. Or by the other hand i will go Revel.

Klipsch is a nice speaker, and here talking of the RF-7II, but not as refined as the ones i mentioned...
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I am wondering if the LS Series connected to a Pre/Pro or High End Receiver if they perfom as well as being connected to JBL Pre/Pro...
I know that for the "Array" Series it makes difference....
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Price wise are you comparing them as equivalent?

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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Price wise are you comparing them as equivalent?

I hope not the revel retail for 5k. Almost 2k more than the rf-7ii.
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Don't know much about either; but, do know that's not the top of the line Klipsch.

Is that the top Revel?

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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The F208 is the top of the mid line Revels, Performa3s. The Salon2s are the top of the Revel upper line, Ultima2s. I have heard the Studio2s, driver size close to the F208s, which were amazing. If the F208s are close to the Studio2s - and am told they are - they will be fabulous.
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Thanks. I'm told you can buy five (5) RF-7II for $5K. FCR + 2 Surrounds will be Wonderful; if he has the room.

Don't know the street price of the Revels, though.

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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Thanks. I'm told you can buy five (5) RF-7II for $5K. FCR + 2 Surrounds will be Wonderful; if he has the room.

Don't know the street price of the Revels, though.

Even if with 5k i buy 5 RF-7's, i prefer 2 Revels F208. Klipsch finish is so, but so "cheap", when you look at them from a certain distance they look very good, with the gold woofers, but then they are made of "MDF", that's not even wood.

Besides Revel does not only has a good finish but it's sounds amazing, for CInema is spectacular. But i haven't decide, because JBL LS80 is not so "sweet" playing music, but it has more "kick" for Cinema. It's also cheaper than Revel, and much better finished than Klipsch.
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OK, I'm sure you'll love them.

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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Even if with 5k i buy 5 RF-7's, i prefer 2 Revels F208. Klipsch finish is so, but so "cheap", when you look at them from a certain distance they look very good, with the gold woofers, but then they are made of "MDF", that's not even wood.

Besides Revel does not only has a good finish but it's sounds amazing, for CInema is spectacular.
Sounds like you didn't need to start this thread then.

MDF is pretty standard now for speakers cut by CNC as it doesn't chip and has more uniform characteristics from most plywood. Are Revel speakers made from solid wood?
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But i haven't decide, because JBL LS80 is not so "sweet" playing music, but it has more "kick" for Cinema. It's also cheaper than Revel, and much better finished than Klipsch.
Perhaps rename the thread "Revel F208 or JBL LS80" then?

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I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, but you'll need lots of power for the Revel, being relatively inefficient; although I'm sure they all can benefit from more "horsepower".

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir, but you'll need lots of power for the Revel, being relatively inefficient; although I'm sure they all can benefit from more "horsepower".

Another Klipsch fan boy I see.smile.gifsmile.gif Just kidding. I recently sold my Klipsch KG2 and KG4 speakers. I have also owned RF7's.
I still have KG 5.2 and Revel F32. I know you are familiar with all the debate on Klipsch forum about power amps needed for RF 7's. Having owned them I agree. They need as much power as the Revels to properly perform.
The Revels do open up a little more at louder levels but so do the KG5.2's as their efficiency is low 90's.
Bottom line is the Revels will play as good as Klipsch with any given amp/AVR in my experiences.
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Why, yes, yes I am; but, at this stage I personally wouldn't have either.

Doesn't mean the Revels won't be a pure joy for him.

I should've said the Revels will require more power to drive to reference level; but, I'm sure he plans P, for plenty, at any rate.

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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The Revel is a fine speaker but it is in a different class than the RF-7 for sure. It is the same price difference between the two as if we compare the Revel F208 to the Klipsch P-37F. Klipsch P-37F
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The Revel is a fine speaker but it is in a different class than the RF-7 for sure. It is the same price difference between the two as if we compare the Revel F208 to the Klipsch P-37F. Klipsch P-37F

And I wouldn't use any of them in an HT room, personally. Stereo in living room, for sure; very nice speakers. Am I wrong or is this thread more about living room stereo more than backroom HT?
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OP mentioned HT in 1st post.

Will I find La Scala, or better, to displace my La Scala fronts, before I displace my kg1, kg2 & kg3 with Heresy or better?

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The Kef R900 would be one of the only other speakers I would consider in comparison to the F208 and that would simply be a preferenceEoRNcT/room thing. Revel would be my choice based on the OP's selection options.

 

They look the same.

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And I wouldn't use any of them in an HT room, personally. Stereo in living room, for sure; very nice speakers. Am I wrong or is this thread more about living room stereo more than backroom HT?

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OP mentioned HT in 1st post.

He mentions HT in a living room... and talks about a pair of speakers rather than 5.1.

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Perhaps he'll clarify.

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And I wouldn't use any of them in an HT room, personally. Stereo in living room, for sure; very nice speakers. Am I wrong or is this thread more about living room stereo more than backroom HT?

Speaking from experience the Revel F32 is as good as the RF7 for HT and superior for music. The Reference speakers have poor mids for music.

Have your tried both?
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No, I just prefer bigger horns for HT for dynamics so wouldn't pick those for HT (you have introduced yet another model BTW; I wonder if an 86 dB sensitivity speaker can be as dynamics as big horns). Not that big horns aren't good for music; I can sip wine while I pinpoint the instruments in front of me like any other audiophile.

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Dynamics are relative. Important things to consider are room size and preferred listening levels. If you have a large room and like to listen at reference levels or more, then you will probably want horn speakers. A horn speaker shouldn't be any more dynamic than a traditional cone and dome/ waveguide speaker given that both aren't driven to thermal compression, but that can be a big caveat depending on your situation.

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He mentions HT in a living room... and talks about a pair of speakers rather than 5.1.

Sorry guys i didn't clarified. So at the momment i have 2 options on the table, and Klipsch is not one of them:

JBL Synthesis:

- LS80 (Front) x 2
- LS Center
- LS60 (Back Surrounds) x 2
- SVS Subs Ultras x2

Revel:

-F208 (Fronts) x2
-C208 (Center)
-F206 (back) x2
-B112 (Sub) x2 or SVS Ultras x2

Prices of JBL are cheaper, and to be honnest i am tempted to go JBL, and the min reason is that is more adequated speaker for cinema, and looks good on the living room.
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What percentage Music Vs. Cinema?

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