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I am looking for recommendations for my 7.1 pioneer receiver. I am hoping to spend about $600 but may consider a little more for the right speakers.
My room is about 24' x 16'.
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With such a low budget, 7 speakers is impossible.

The quality would be so low that it will sound like crap.

Even getting 5 decent speakers will be a challenge.

On the other hand, the Pioneer BS-22 speakers are only about $140 per pair, and that will be the perfect answer to your problem. They are amazingly good for their price. IMO nothing else in that price range even comes close to their sound quality (check out the recent Stereophile review on them).

Get four of those and the matching Pioneer SP-C22 center speaker and you will have a good-sounding setup for around $400.

You will also need a subwoofer, of course.

The Polk PSW505 is usually around $200, and is about the only halfway decent one in your budget range. look around for the best deal on that one.
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I am currently using speakers from a onkyo s5200 theatre speaker in a box. So it is 7.1 but not sounding that great. I am looking for an upgrade from these speakers. I am open to suggestions higher than the $600 that I mentioned. Thanks for any info that can be provided.
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I am currently using speakers from a onkyo s5200 theatre speaker in a box. So it is 7.1 but not sounding that great. I am looking for an upgrade from these speakers. I am open to suggestions higher than the $600 that I mentioned. Thanks for any info that can be provided.
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I am currently using speakers from a onkyo s5200 theatre speaker in a box. So it is 7.1 but not sounding that great. I am looking for an upgrade from these speakers. I am open to suggestions higher than the $600 that I mentioned. Thanks for any info that can be provided.

That is a fairly decent size space.

Starting with a 2.0 or 3.0 and then adding surrounds and a sub might be a good idea.

A pair of Primus P363 towers with a PC351 can be had for a bit over $400.

That is just one suggestion, there are others ideas people will suggest.
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I see has Newegg has a lot of Polk Audio speakers on sale. Anybody have any opinions on Polk Audio. Is it an upgrade from my current Onkyo 5200 speakers? Any opinions will be appreciated.
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the Polk speakers will be far better than your current Onkyo 5200 speakers which are very poor performers!

Which Polks are you looking at in particular?

You also might want to look at the HTD speakers.
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers
http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Center-Channel-Speaker


Other options are the Boston A26 speakers at $99 each.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSA26GBA/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-A26-2-Way-6.5in-Bookshelf-Speaker-Each-Gloss-Black/1.html
Matching center $150
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSA225CGBA/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-A225C-2-Way-Center-Channel-Speaker-Black/1.html

Third option are the Cambridge Audio speakers for $170/pr and matching center for $150
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/CAMBS30BLK/CAMBRIDGE-AUDIO-S30-4-2-way-Bookshelf-Speakers-Pair-Black/1.html
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/CAMBS50BLK/CAMBRIDGE-AUDIO-S50-4-3-Way-Center-Channel-Speaker-Black/1.html

There's a thread about these speakers which might interest you too.
http://www.wavecrestaudio.com/products/hvl-1-two-way-loudspeaker-pair
you can buy a third single speaker to use as a center.

And add this subwoofer which will also be better than your current Onkyo sub.
http://www.amazon.com/NXG-Technology-NX-BAS-500-500-watt-Subwoofer/dp/B008FSTU4G


that's about $600 right there for 2 bookshelf speakers and center and subwoofer. You can add the surround speakers later when you get money. Just use your Onkyo speakers for surrounds until then,.

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I was looking at something like the setup below. I was going to use the bookshelfs for the surround speakers. Is that ok? Or my other thought would be not to order the bookshelfs & use my current speakers for the surrounds & rear speakers. (my current setup is 7.1) Or could I use my current fronts for the surrounds? I really don't watch that much HT. What I am trying to accomplish is to have better sound for music. I was looking at speaker packages but have been told that is not the way to go. All opinions are welcome.

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 Black 10-inch Powered Subwoofer
Polk Audio New Monitor 45B Two-Way Bookshelf Loudspeaker
Polk Audio New Monitor 55T Two-Way Ported Floorstanding Loudspeaker
Polk Audio New Monitor 15C Two-Way Center Channel Loudspeaker
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I was looking at something like the setup below. I was going to use the bookshelfs for the surround speakers. Is that ok? Or my other thought would be not to order the bookshelfs & use my current speakers for the surrounds & rear speakers. (my current setup is 7.1) Or could I use my current fronts for the surrounds? I really don't watch that much HT. What I am trying to accomplish is to have better sound for music. I was looking at speaker packages but have been told that is not the way to go. All opinions are welcome.

Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 Black 10-inch Powered Subwoofer
Polk Audio New Monitor 45B Two-Way Bookshelf Loudspeaker
Polk Audio New Monitor 55T Two-Way Ported Floorstanding Loudspeaker
Polk Audio New Monitor 15C Two-Way Center Channel Loudspeaker

I think afrogt has some great suggestions and they meet your budget.
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I would go back to Post #7

Some good options for mainly music - Cambridge is my preference

I would pass on the Polk PSW10 sub

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Are you looking to specifically listen to multichannel music? Or do you want a good set of mains for 2ch music? Your current speakers would be fine for surround and rear surrounds for the time being although more for HT; if you are going for multi-ch music then you'd probably want 5 speakers that are more closely matched if not all the same (there's not a lot of 7ch music out there). I like the Cambridge S30, have a pair myself in a 2ch setup, very nice for the price. Perhaps a set of Ascend Acoustics 170SEs for L/C/R would be about $500, also very nice speakers for the price. Another vote for passing on the Polk PSW10 (like someone said, the 505 gets better reviews; you might want to review this thread for budget sub thoughts http://www.avsforum.com/t/1396482/budget-subwoofers-discussions-opinions-and-questions-thread).
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My main use would be for 2ch music. I do use the home theatre sometimes but not as much as I thought I would. I really appreciate all suggestions/
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Is this setup any good MartinLogan MLT-2 5.1 CH Premium Home Theater Speaker System Black System? Or is it no better than my current Onkyo 5200? I wonder because newegg says these are $199. Regular $1000. Doesn't seem realistic to me.
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LOL! You can "save" even more as Amazon shows they list for $1200 and are on sale for $236. I'd pass in any case as it's more a lateral move IMHO.
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Is this setup any good MartinLogan MLT-2 5.1 CH Premium Home Theater Speaker System Black System? Or is it no better than my current Onkyo 5200? I wonder because newegg says these are $199. Regular $1000. Doesn't seem realistic to me.

Better suggestions have already been recommended

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Would you go with the Cambridge S30 over the Cambridge S70? I see the website with the S30 also has S70 for about $110 more. The S70 are taller and wouldn't require a speaker stand but how does the performance compare to the S30? Is there any value in spending the extra $110?
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Would you go with the Cambridge S30 over the Cambridge S70? I see the website with the S30 also has S70 for about $110 more. The S70 are taller and wouldn't require a speaker stand but how does the performance compare to the S30? Is there any value in spending the extra $110?
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The two five inch woofers should give better bass than one 4.5 inch woofer.
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I would also expect the towers to be much better in the bass department due to the dual 5" woofer and also a much larger cabinet. Better power handling too.

If you need to buy stands maybe it would be better to go for the s70's. I thought you might already have stands from your previous speakers.

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I do have some stands in my basement that I could use. I am debating between the pioneer suggestion (my receiver is Pioneer) in post # 2 & the Cambridge suggestions in post # 7. Are the Cambridges the much better choice? I would be looking at replacing my fronts, centre channel & subwoofer. I do have decent paradigm that I could use for surround or use my existing Onkyo's.
Being relatively new at this can somebody tell me what Audio CD's output (ie: 2.0, 2.1, 5.1)? I ask this because the music that I will listen to will be mainly my old CD collection or IPOD. Help!
I am still open to other speaker choices.
Thanks to everybody for your advice & input. I really do appreciate this.
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I have owned Pioneer and Cambridge - I prefer the Cambridge sound quality - Cambridge has better definition and
does a good job with music - and the bookshelf will go down low.

A lot of music can be handled 2.0 and 2.1

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I have owned Pioneer and Cambridge - I prefer the Cambridge sound quality - Cambridge has better definition and
does a good job with music - and the bookshelf will go down low.

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At their current price, the Cambridge speakers are hard to beat smile.gif

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I do have some stands in my basement that I could use. I am debating between the pioneer suggestion (my receiver is Pioneer) in post # 2 & the Cambridge suggestions in post # 7. Are the Cambridges the much better choice? I would be looking at replacing my fronts, centre channel & subwoofer. I do have decent paradigm that I could use for surround or use my existing Onkyo's.
Being relatively new at this can somebody tell me what Audio CD's output (ie: 2.0, 2.1, 5.1)? I ask this because the music that I will listen to will be mainly my old CD collection or IPOD. Help!
I am still open to other speaker choices.
Thanks to everybody for your advice & input. I really do appreciate this.

CD's and iPod output in stereo which is two channel music.

Your Pioneer will have a sound mode where you can take a 2 channel source and push it thru 3, 4, 5 or 7 speakers. Probably called All Channel stereo, Multi Channel Stereo, 5/7 channel stereo or something like that. Its great for parties or when you want background music.

You've been given plenty of speaker choices. You need to go out a listen to some speakers to find out what sound qualities you like.

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I am not sure that I will be able to hear these. I am in Canada & not sure anyone carries them here. I will buy them online & have them shipped to the border parcel pickup. That is why I am asking for opinions. I am sure they will be an upgrade from my current speakers. I am probably going with the Cambridges & NGX subwoofer.
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Canada changes everything. Same models are definitely not available at good prices. Prices are much worse in Canada than in the US.

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As long as I can order them to the parcel pickup I am good. am going to US in a couple weeks and can pick them up. You are right about the pricing in Canada. It's way higher
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That's good. Ordering for delivery in the US would definitely be the way to go smile.gif

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Well I have placed my order. I have ordered the Cambridge S30 & S50 mentioned in post 7 from accessories4less. I have also ordered the NXG Technology-NX-BAS-500 subwoofer. I have ordered this from radio shack. It was priced there for $259. I also found a promo code SLKOCT13 which knocked another $20 off. Radio Shack works better for me because if there is a problem with it then I can return it to the store which is about 2 1/2 hours away from me. All the equipment will be delivered for free to the border parcel pickup store. I will pick it up in a couple weekends from now. I am looking forward to hooking it up. I am sure it will be much better than my current setup. Thanks to afrogt and everybody else for your suggestions. It was much appreciated.
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I have received my equipment & set it up. I am happy with it but still wondering if the S70's should be used in the front instead of the S30's? I have comparable Paradigm's right now for the surround speakers. The Paradigm's sound very good there. My thought would be to replace the Paradigm with the 30's & purchase the 70's for the front. Does anyone have an opinion on whether the 70's would be that much better than the 30's?
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