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Hello all,

As mentioned before, I am setting up a new system in a large room (a clubhouse). To describe it, the room is a bar on one side and a stage on the other. The whole area is about 50x30. I will be using a amp and Peavey sp2s on the stage side. What I am looking for is a speaker system for closer to the bar with a home receiver. They will be wall mounted. Everything I see is home audio with center channel and sub. I think I will need the sub but not the center because this will be for audio only. Of course I have a way too small budget. Any thoughts?

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M&K or JTR.
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Audio only as opposed to the other type of speaker that produces both audio and video? tongue.gif
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Awesome title!

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Well, if this is just a big clubhouse/party room, and no-one will care what it sounds like, get a pair of cerwin vegas! If you care about how it actually sounds, you'll need to provide some more info. smile.gif

Edit: Just saw your avitar. Im a biker too. Sportbike though. cool.gif I'm assuming this is for your club?

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If you have anymore questions, I'd be glad to help another brother out! I think I know what you're looking for.

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You want pro audio sound reinforcement speakers - Electro Voice, JBL - something like that.
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Let's give him some realistic suggestions... What kind of budget do you have? Will this be playing while the Peaveys are playing or just for time inbetween? How large is the bar area? What kind of sound are you hoping for, background music, club thumping, etc.?

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Lol, yeah I guess the title is kinda funny. Ya this for our clubhouse. We have two Peavey SP2s on the stage side.  I have been a dj for years so I have all sorts of amps and Pro speakers. Trying to find a smaller solution. I am looking for something smaller that I can surround the area with. Has to be decent sound but not thumping. If they want thumping we can kick over the peaveys. We of course have a mix of Old and young and music tastes all over the place. We have had the peaveys in place for a few years. Works great if you are on that side of the bar, but the receiver is on the other side. So the guy turning it up at the stereo turns it up to what he likes, which is blowing you away on the side closest to the stage. The room is a rectangle with the bar taking up about a third on one side which is on the opposite side as the stage. Of course concrete floors and metal roof so that doesn't make it any easier. My budget is about a grand. I was also hoping to add a receiver (newer) with some zones as we have a deck and will eventually want to add some outdoor speakers. I frankly was surprised on how many options there seem to be. I live out in the sticks and the nearest audio store is bout 40 miles away. Will be going to hear some stuff this next week but was trying to find a direction to go first. I am embarrassed about my ignorance on the subject but there is a difference between PA and home audio.

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M&K or JTR.
He hasn't stated a specific budget but, to me, his post suggests it's more likely Peavy, KRK, Behringer, JBL, etc.
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Those Behringers or the JBLs would probably be a good solution. The Behringers have a pretty good track record on here, and so do the JBLs, but I haven't heard either one. But they are studio monitors, and should play at the levels your looking for. I've been in a couple MC clubs, and the audio is always terrible! biggrin.gif I was going to do some research today, but couldn't find the time. Check out anything in the Behringer truth line, and see if that might be something you could use. Cheers! Now, back to the beer and music!!! cool.gif

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The KRK and Behringer studio monitors are pretty decent for the price and can be had in both passive and active amplification. I auditioned them in a Guitar Center. I'm impressed with the Emotiva Stealth active monitors but they come with a premium price -- about the cost of comparable monitors from Adam. Emotiva is currently having a sale on their active monitors but the Stealth 8 ( 200w + 200w amp ) are still over $1300 a pair.

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Given the "club" description, I was not thinking of the monitors. I was thinking more like: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PVP115D?device=c&network=g&matchtype=&gclid=CI2TwKT-tLoCFU8V7AodU2kA_g
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Awesome title!

Lol, yeah, that caught my eye too, for audio, as opposed to a dart board
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Lol, yeah, that caught my eye too, for audio, as opposed to a dart board

Hey Geoff4RFC, I did'nt think there were any other sportbike riders on here that were into good quality music! LOL! (Nice track bike by the way.) Thinking about getting a gixxer some day! But for now, I'll stick with my Yammy! tongue.gif

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Audio only as opposed to the other type of speaker that produces both audio and video? tongue.gif

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Awesome title!

Lol, yeah, that caught my eye too, for audio, as opposed to a dart board

Yep only reason the thread caught my eye. Dart board, decorations, paper weights, seats, but audio? Who woulda thunk? smile.gif

For good bang for your buck maybe look into some of the SEOS kits at diysoundgroup.com....

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Hey Geoff4RFC, I did'nt think there were any other sportbike riders on here that were into good quality music! LOL! (Nice track bike by the way.) Thinking about getting a gixxer some day! But for now, I'll stick with my Yammy! tongue.gif

Yeah, I've done some "sport" riding. Started in '86 - '96 pause '03 - '08. If you check out my calling all polies link in my sig, you'll see some more racing pics.

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Yeah, sorry for hijacking Wildtimez! smile.gif Geoff, I'll check it out. BTW, Marquez totally botched that tire change thing last week, didnt he??? WTH was that? Rookie mistake I guess. I hope he takes the championship this year. He's unreal!!! Anyway, carry on. Sorry! wink.gif

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Jerry,

Those Peaveys are close to what I have on the stage side now. Am looking for a smaller setup to balance the other side out. Really decent bookshelfs maybe? Finally made it to a best buy just to hear some. Not very Impressed although they had some smaller Bose that didn't sound too bad. Thinking about a Yamaha receiver.

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Those Peaveys are close to what I have on the stage side now. Am looking for a smaller setup to balance the other side out. Really decent bookshelfs maybe? Finally made it to a best buy just to hear some. Not very Impressed although they had some smaller Bose that didn't sound too bad. Thinking about a Yamaha receiver.
Go to guitar Center and try a listen to a Behringer 2030 or 2031.
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Go to guitar Center and try a listen to a Behringer 2030 or 2031.

I have never seen any Guitar Centers carry Behringer monitors. They could order them for you, but I doubt you'll find any on demo. Other pro-audio stores might have them on display.
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I would strongly suggest staying very far away from anything Behringer. They are an absolutely horrible company. The sound is awful and they are built very poorly. I would look at like a small powered stage monitor, they are referred to as piano or drum monitors sometimes. Something like the Mack SRM150, JBL AWC83, Yorkville C170P, or dB Technologies K-70 or K-300. Something along those lines would be perfect for what your looking for.

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I have never seen any Guitar Centers carry Behringer monitors. They could order them for you, but I doubt you'll find any on demo. Other pro-audio stores might have them on display.
Ah crud. BestBuy doesn't have them anymore as far as I can tell. Not sure where else. Pity: the 2030p is an excellent speaker.
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I would strongly suggest staying very far away from anything Behringer.
I can think of a score of owners and audio-enthusiasts (some pro producers, some builders, and some just fans) who would strongly disagree. Do you have any data to support this claim?
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Behringer doesn't have the best reputation for reliability in the electronics arena, but that shouldn't carry over to the Truth speakers, which have been measured to have very good response (for the price) many times over. As for the sound quality of the Truth series, there are certainly better monitors, but not for the price. After all, Mackie paid for the R&D! Also, in passive Truth monitors, electronics reliability wouldn't be a concern, since there isn't any electronics in a passive speaker, obviously.
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I can think of a score of owners and audio-enthusiasts (some pro producers, some builders, and some just fans) who would strongly disagree. Do you have any data to support this claim?

As an audio engineer none of the studios I work at or live venues have their gear because they sound bad, ie. noisy and not consistent, they also break down. I have done several jobs where I was redesigning a system and the first thing I do is always get rid of anything behringer they have. Go search through a pro-audio forum like gearslutz and everyone will agree with me.

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if you are ok with no grills.

KRK 10-3's are very nice, they can keep up with some of the top home theater offerings, but are only 500$ each.

volume wise they will go loud enough, unless you are trying to make the guests go deaf.

I will admit they are not 'small' but compared to the speakers they contend with they are tiny.


They are powered, so no amp needed.... just a receiver or even secondary outputs from the stage area with some sort of volume adjustment.
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As an audio engineer none of the studios I work at or live venues have their gear because they sound bad, ie. noisy and not consistent, they also break down. I have done several jobs where I was redesigning a system and the first thing I do is always get rid of anything behringer they have. Go search through a pro-audio forum like gearslutz and everyone will agree with me.

My Behringer amp has performed flawlessly for me for years.

Dumb enough to spend lots of cash on this junk!
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As an audio engineer none of the studios I work at or live venues have their gear because they sound bad, ie. noisy and not consistent, they also break down. I have done several jobs where I was redesigning a system and the first thing I do is always get rid of anything behringer they have. Go search through a pro-audio forum like gearslutz and everyone will agree with me.

My Behringer amp has performed flawlessly for me for years.

That seems to happen to a lot of people, myself included.

I know a number of people who are professional audio engineers of a high echelon, namely AES Fellows and other designers of systems that are sold by the 10,000s who have an amazing amount of Behringer equipment in their home and professional systems.

The most common sort of Behringer critic seems to be some guy who pulls a few small venue live sound qigs and deifies the prejudices of people that he admires who he reads on the internet..

I'm not saying that Behringer equipment is always perfect, but if you pick and choose equipment from among their rather extensive catalog, it can all work out. They have clearly put out some classic equipment such as the A500 and EP2500/4000 amps and the B2031 studio monitor. Their small analog consoles are good for people who are starting out but do take a licking and keep on ticking.
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