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post #1 of 36 Old 10-29-2013, 07:18 PM - Thread Starter
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(UPDATED speakers and sub woofer)

I want to get some new HT speakers.
The amp I have now I want to keep using, It is a the STR-DB940 Sony receiver.

The room I am using is 30 x 30 . But will have sliding dividing walls to make the HT area 18 x 12.
The ceilings are about 7 feet tall.

Right now top of my list is this PSB set up....

PSB set for $2300
PSB Image T5 Towers
PSB Image C5 Centre Channel Speaker
SVS SSS-01 Surround Speakers
SVS PB12-NSD


I have also listened to and liked the following....

Paradigm set for $2440 + sub
Monitor 11 for my fronts.
Center 3,
surround 3,

I can get them for about $2440
I would have to wait and get the sub Woofer later down the road


Definitive set for $2300 + sub
2x BP-8060ST
1x CS-8040HD
2x SR-8040BP

Polk Audio setup for around $1700 + sub
RTIA9
CSIA6
FXIA4

What are some other speakers that I should look into? My max budget is $2500.
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Take a look at Ascend Acoustics, they make excellent speakers and would be a great choice for you. You don't need towers up front when you have a sub(s) because your crossover will negate the lower extension of towers.

I would go with this:

CMT-340 SE FL/C/FR
CBM-170 SE SL/SR
(2) Rythmik LV12R

With the matching stands for the 340s, this comes to $2,300, and would be an excellent system. You need a sub for home theater, there is no getting around it, and dual subs even out your bass response and give you much better quality bass.

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^ Big +1.

That's a great bang of your buck HT system. Just a quick note about the surrounds: the CBM-170 SE's are a rear ported speaker suitable for away from wall applications, whilst the HTM-200 SE's are a sealed speaker that are ideal for on or near wall mounting.

If the director of finances has OK'd a $3K outlay, a step up in class to dual Rythmik F15's would bring the total to $2960. biggrin.gif
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What about a center speaker for the Ascend setup?
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You just order the center (TV) version of the CMT-340, but it is the same speaker.

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I live in Canada so the shipping might end up killing me.
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I live in Canada so the shipping might end up killing me.

You could contact them and see what it would cost to ship, probably not as high an overseas order.

PSB is a Canadian company and make fantastic speakers. You could go with the PSB Image T6 towers, Image C5 Center, and Image B5 surrounds. SVS has a Canadian dealer and a pair of SVS PB-1000 would be excellent.

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Satellite + Subs sounds good to me.
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Just listened to this Polk Audio Setup

RTIA9
CSIA6
FXIA4
PSW125

What are your thoughts compaired to the other speakers I have on my list?
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The speakers are good, that sub is not. Drop that sub, and then get two SVS PB-1000, they have a Canadian dealer.
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Just listened to this Polk Audio Setup

RTIA9
CSIA6
FXIA4
PSW125

What are your thoughts compaired to the other speakers I have on my list?

To each their own - however, I would drop that sub and pick another one.
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What about the following set up?

 

PSB Image T5 Towers

PSB Image C5 Centre Channel Speaker

PSB Image B6 Bookshelf Speakers

SB12-NSD Powered Box Sub, 12" NSD Woofer

 

 

For my surround speakers should I be looking at a bookshelf type speakers or the "V" shaped ones. I think they are called bipolar Speakers???

 

Do the surround speakers need to be the same company as the fronts? I am defiantly getting two fronts and one center from the same company but was just wondering if it matter as much for the rears.

 

I could get these rears instead maybe??

SSS-01 Surround Speakers

 

Thanks for the help.

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What about the following set up?

 

PSB Image T5 Towers

PSB Image C5 Centre Channel Speaker

PSB Image B6 Bookshelf Speakers

SB12-NSD Powered Box Sub, 12" NSD Woofer

 

 

For my surround speakers should I be looking at a bookshelf type speakers or the "V" shaped ones. I think they are called bipolar Speakers???

 

Do the surround speakers need to be the same company as the fronts? I am defiantly getting two fronts and one center from the same company but was just wondering if it matter as much for the rears.

 

I could get these rears instead maybe??

SSS-01 Surround Speakers

 

Thanks for the help.

Steven

Very good speakers IMO. I have the Image T5 for my fronts and the Image C5 for my center in my living room set up. I have also had the Image B6 in the past and really liked them.  I also think you have a good subwoofer with the PB12-NSD. That looks like a very good system. 

 

The surrounds don't have to be from the same company as the fronts. If you are into listening to multi-channel music then you might want them to be but they don't need to be.

 

The "V' shaped speakers you speak of are often bipole/dipole speakers which can be used in either mode. The bipole mode is usually used when the speakers are placed behind your listening position and gives directional sound. The dipole mode is used when they are set to the side of your listening position and then they produce diffused wraparound sound. Of course you don't have to use them that way if you don't want to. The FXIA4 speakers in the Polk system you were looking at are this type of speaker.

 

You can use either bookshelf or bipole/dipole for your surrounds depending on what you like better. Bookshelf are directional.

 

By the way, I also have a Polk system that is very similar to the Polk system you listed above, the only difference is that I have the RTi-a7s instead of the a9s, the rest is the same. I like this system quit a bit. You will find that some people in these forums don't like Polk very much, but that doesn't mean that they are bad, it just means some people don't like them. 

 

It's kind of funny, I have personal experience with both the PSB system and the Polk system you have been looking at and I like them both. Are the PSBs better? In my opinion, yes they are, but the Polks are good and I enjoy them. The key however, is that you buy a system you like. It makes no sense for you to buy speakers that we might like, we won't be listening to them. Demo different speakers and buy the one's that make you happy. And enjoy the journey to a great HT. :) 

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Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. I have managed to listened to all of the speakers on my list.
I have determined I don't like any speaker with a horn. Like the kplich ones.

It's hard to judge speakers. I listen to a few at one place. Then go to another place and forget the first place. Lol
I assume as long as I like the sound. I'll probably be happy.

I kinda like the idea of the dipole/bipole and will probably look into getting a set of those for my rears.
Are the dipole/bipole speakers usually more expensive then regular book shelf speakers?

Would using the PSB B6 as my two front speakers be an option. Or is it better to go with the T5?

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As a rule, from what I have seen, the bi/di pole speakers tend to be a little more expensive but that really depends on the bookshelves you are talking about. A good set of bookshelf speakers can be a lot more than a set of bi/dipole speakers. So it's all relative. FWIW I like the bi/di pole speakers for surrounds better than bookshelves but that's just my opinion.

 

The B6 would be fine for your front channels as long as you have a good subwoofer, which you still should have even if you are running towers as your front channels. Check out the following ID companies and look at their subs:

PSA

SVS

Outlaw

Rythmik

Hsu

 

The subwoofer is a very very important piece of HT equipment. Spending almost as much on your sub(s) as your speakers is not a bad idea. 

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This is the sub I have been thinking about getting is the

 

SB12-NSD Powered Box Sub, 12" NSD Woofer

 

What am I loosing if I go with B5 bookshelf speakers over the T5 tower?

 

Thanks

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Here is a concern I have with the subwoofer and your room. I see that it's a big room until you slide that wall across. I'm not sure that a wall that can slide is thick enough to count as boundary that will stop the bass waves from going right through it. In other words, I'm concerned your room might actually be the larger dimension. If so, you would definitely want to look at ported subwoofers because they do a better job of filling large spaces. Sealed subwoofers work better in smaller spaces. I have no knowledge about that type of wall though so I'm no expert. But it would be worth you checking into it. 

 

You won't be missing very much going with the B5s if you cross over the speakers at least 80 or 90hz to your subwoofer. I personally like towers over bookshelves for fronts but that's more of an aesthetic thing and I think the towers give a "fuller" sound due to the larger cabinet. But that's debatable. 

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I am thinking DIPOLE speakers for my rear set. Maybe the ENERGY VERITAS VSB set.

The place I am buying them from has the older model of these that aren't made in china.

 

or the SVS SSS-01 Surround Speakers

 

thoughts?

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Here is a concern I have with the subwoofer and your room. I see that it's a big room until you slide that wall across. I'm not sure that a wall that can slide is thick enough to count as boundary that will stop the bass waves from going right through it. In other words, I'm concerned your room might actually be the larger dimension. If so, you would definitely want to look at ported subwoofers because they do a better job of filling large spaces. Sealed subwoofers work better in smaller spaces. I have no knowledge about that type of wall though so I'm no expert. But it would be worth you checking into it. 

 

You won't be missing very much going with the B5s if you cross over the speakers at least 80 or 90hz to your subwoofer. I personally like towers over bookshelves for fronts but that's more of an aesthetic thing and I think the towers give a "fuller" sound due to the larger cabinet. But that's debatable. 

Awesome thanks!! Didn't even know there were different types.

Found this one on the SVS site that is still in my price range.

 

PB12-NSD

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Try the KEF LS50, unbelievable speakers. You can get 5 for around $3000 shipped.
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Awesome thanks!! Didn't even know there were different types.

Found this one on the SVS site that is still in my price range.

 

PB12-NSD

The PB12-NSD is a good sub. That's a good choice.  I'm not familiar with the SSS-01 surrounds so I can't comment but I have heard that the SVS speakers are very good. Down the road I would recommend you look into buying a 2nd sub (preferably a matching one to the first one) if you find that one isn't giving you as much bass as you wanted. That a possibility if the sliding wall doesn't act as a boundary. But I would start with one. 

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I live in Canada so the shipping might end up killing me.

Where in Canada do you live exactly?
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So you're not to far from the border crossing then, what an hour or so drive? You can just get everything shipped to a holding company across the border and go down and get it and just bring it across the border yourself. You'll still have to pay the taxes but you'll be doing that anyways buying in Canada. And that way you wouldn't get killed by the cross boarder charges, especially since a lot of ID companies have free shipping within the US.

At least that's what I did with everything I've bought. And I've still come out ahead with how much I've saved overall.
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So you're not to far from the border crossing then, what an hour or so drive? You can just get everything shipped to a holding company across the border and go down and get it and just bring it across the border yourself. You'll still have to pay the taxes but you'll be doing that anyways buying in Canada. And that way you wouldn't get killed by the cross boarder charges, especially since a lot of ID companies have free shipping within the US.

At least that's what I did with everything I've bought. And I've still come out ahead with how much I've saved overall.

Good point. 

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What do you think of this Klipsch Set. They are on sale right now for Black Friday (until Dec 3)

 

RF82 for my fronts (249.99 each)

RC-500B for my centre (249.99)

RS400B for my rears ($149.99 each)

SVS PB12-NSD for my sub

 

I am a little worried I will not the horn in these speakers. I am going to give them another try this week.

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What do you think of this Klipsch Set. They are on sale right now for Black Friday (until Dec 3)

 

RF82 for my fronts (249.99 each)

RC-500B for my centre (249.99)

RS400B for my rears ($149.99 each)

SVS PB12-NSD for my sub

 

I am a little worried I will not the horn in these speakers. I am going to give them another try this week.

I always recommend listening before you buy. If you like them great, if not then it's time to keep looking. 

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I listened to them very early in my testing. I did not really like the horns.
So I have decided to not even bother testing them again.
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I listened to them very early in my testing. I did not really like the horns.
So I have decided to not even bother testing them again.

I experienced the same thing, I found the horns fatiguing and I couldn't listen to them for very long. But a lot of people enjoy them quit a bit. That's the way it is with speakers, they are very subjective. That's why I suggest that people listen first so they can discover what sounds good to them. Personally I wish I did like the horns because I really like the way the Klipsch look and would like to own them.

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I love the gold and black look. I read online you can dampen the horns with foam stuck to them.
But not sure that's really worth it. The look and the price got me thinking about them again.
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