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Old 11-04-2013, 09:39 AM - Thread Starter
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I heard a speaker last week that i, for the most part loved. The image of the sound was MONSTROUS!! Most speakers i hear have for the most part have panoramic like image, shallow height but wide stage.
I believe the speaker i heard was able to do this because of the flat, instead of coned, midrange.

What are some other designs? Would D'Appolito array make for a large image?
What about line array?

Any speakers in particular that add height and measure well?
lets see some speaker battles here.
Why is this speaker better?.....1st order crossover opposed to 4th,.....matching driver materials instead to mix matched tweeter/mid/woofer , more forward engaging image opposed to laid back(matter of preferance),...tower over bookshelf

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Any idea what these "monstrous" speakers were? You've peaked my curiosity.

Personally, I've been a fan of floorstanding over bookshelf. The visual presence gives a much better aural emphasis seeing a larger speaker producing the sound. True, some bookshelf speakers can be excellent competitors to their larger counterparts. But in utilizing the cabinet size to produce a more full and robust sound has always been my cup o' tea. 

 

Heck, I've had my four Klipsch Synergy F-1s as my four channels for years and years. Though I've lusted to upgrade to the Reference series for quite some time now (female unit isn't too keen on that fact yet), I still enjoy the crisp and full sound they're able to create together. Yeah, they're not necessarily the bottom of the rung but they're no high end comparison, but they're able to effectively engross the full stage effect quite well. 

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I heard a speaker last week that i, for the most part loved. The image of the sound was MONSTROUS!! Most speakers i hear have for the most part have panoramic like image, shallow height but wide stage.I believe the speaker i heard was able to do this because of the flat, instead of coned, midrange.
It would be pretty easy to identify the why's of what you heard by seeing it, but otherwise one could only guess. In this case I guess the midrange was a planar, but that's only a guess.

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it was a theil cs1.7

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it was like going from a 50 inch tv to a drive-in

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Nothing about the Thiel strikes me as all that unusual, though the woofer appears interesting, visually similar to a Manger. If there were technical details on their site it would help, especially regarding polar and waterfall charts, but there aren't.

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I have owned a set of Newform Research R630's for a couple of years and can't go back to using more traditional box speakers now.

I get excellent soundstage with the R630s. Including a sense of height and depth to the stage. The Newform Research web page explains what their speakers do differently to others. A couple of points is that 1k and up acts as a line array plus it also comes from a very narrow baffle with minimal baffle bounce interfering with the transmitting sound waves.

Sometimes I swap the R630s for some of my other speakers (Monitor Audio GX50's, PSB Imagine B's, Dynaudio DM 2/6) and it only takes a day or two before I begin to miss the R630's and swap back again. Soundstage just becomes 'panoramic' like you described with the other speakers with very little height and depth to the stage. Also localisation of the individual instruments/vocals isn't as precise with those other speakers.
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http://www.thielaudio.com/products/floor-standing-models/cs1-7/
the woofer/midrange doesn't seam unusual?
i picture this as a usual midrange driverhttp://impactaudio.co.uk/image/cache/data/l_TI100-900x900.jpg

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Thanks guys. Kiwi, those are some interesting speakers!
Im just going to have to go to RMAF next year.

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