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Hi guys,

I have about $1,500 to spend for a new surround sound setup for my living room. I can go up a little in price if needed. If I can get a much better setup for $2,000 I'm all ears.

I'm thinking:

- Receiver
- Sub
- Two rear speakers
- Two front speakers

I'm also open to towers or a center. Whatever will sound the best to be honest.

Does anyone have any recommendations, especially on great Black Friday deals?


Thanks!

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I've spotted the below Klipsch sets. Can someone let me know which is the best deal and if they are worth buying?

Which one would you recommend?

Option 1:
Acoustic Sound Design has Klipsch RF-82II 5.2 Theater System for $5692 - $2793 w/ coupon code rf82harman = $2899 with free shipping.

Includes:
2x Klipsch Reference RF-82 II Tower Speaker
1x Klipsch Reference RC-62 II Center Channel Speaker
2x Klipsch Reference RS-52 II Surround Speakers
2x Klipsch Reference SW-310 Powered Subwoofer (Black)
1x Harman Kardon AVR 3700 7.2-channel A/V Receiver

Option 2:
Acoustic Sound Design has Klipsch II 5.0 Bookshelf Home Theater System for $2048 - $1049 w/ coupon code rb41book = $999. Shipping is Free.

Includes:
2x Klipsch RB-41 II Bookshelf Speakers
1x Klipsch RC-42 II Center Channel Speaker
2x Klipsch RS-41 II Surround Speakers
1x Klipsch SW-310 Powered Subwoofer
No Receiver

Option 3:

Link - $1,699

Includes:
(2) Klipsch RB-61 II Bookshelf Speakers
(1) Klipsch RC-52 II Center Channel Speaker
(2) Klipsch RS-42 II Surround Speakers
(1) Klipsch Reference SW-310 Powered Subwoofer (Black Only)
(1) Harman Kardon AVR 2700 7.1 AV Receiver
(1) 100' 14 Gauge Honeywell Speaker Wire


Option 4:

Link - $4452 - $2057 Coupon Code "62bundle" = $2395 Shipped!

(2) RF-62II Tower
(1) RC-62 II Center
(2) RS-52II Surrounds (Black Only)
(2) BIC Acoustech PL-200 1000 Watt Powered Sub (Black Only)
(1) Harman Kardon AVR 3700 7.2 AV Receiver
100 Feet Honeywell 14 Gauge and sub Cable



Last options:

http://slickdeals.net/f/6482754-klipsch-reference-series-speaker-bundles-rf-52-ii-1192-rb-51-ii-1601-rf-62-ii-1025-free-shipping

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Hi guys,

I have about $1,500 to spend for a new surround sound setup for my living room. I can go up a little in price if needed. If I can get a much better setup for $2,000 I'm all ears.

I'm thinking:

- Receiver
- Sub
- Two rear speakers
- Two front speakers

I'm also open to towers or a center. Whatever will sound the best to be honest.

Does anyone have any recommendations, especially on great Black Friday deals?


Thanks!

I'll throw this out there for consideration:

EMPTEK
E55Ti Towers - $580 pair
E5Bi Bookshelves - $190 pair
E5Ci Center Channel - $155 ea.
Denon AVR-1713 - $359
Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX Subwoofer - $599

===== 5.0 speakers ===== $925
=====5.0 speakers + AVR ===== $1284
=====5.0 speakers + AVR + Sub ===== $1883

For the AVR, you could go to A4L and get a refurbished unit, or better yet, CALL jdsmoothie at AVS to see what kind of deal he can do (including Klipsch).
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Thanks so much!

Is it safe to assume this is some of the best equipment I can get for the price range I'm looking into?

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Thanks so much!

Is it safe to assume this is some of the best equipment I can get for the price range I'm looking into?


Choice of speakers will always come down to your personal preference, there are dozens if not hundreds of brands to choose from. However, those EMPTeks are great bargains at their regular prices, so the BF pricing just make them that much more of a deal.
Here's the Audioholics review of them:
http://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/emp-tek-e55ti-first-look
http://www.audioholics.com/tower-speaker-reviews/emptek-e55ti

The Outlaw subwoofer is also a great catch at the BF pricing. Depending on your room size and usage one may be enough, but with your budget, that's about the best you're going to do. Besides you could always add another one down the road, funds permitting.

While the Denon AVR is certainly competent in this price range, any comparable model from Yamaha or Pioneer would perform equally well. I like this particular model because it offers the slightly higher level Audyssey MutiEQ XT version of room correction.

Perhaps if you specified your room size (in cubic feet) and intended usage (percentage of music/movies/games) more members would chime in with additional suggestions.
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Hi guys,

I have about $1,500 to spend for a new surround sound setup for my living room. I can go up a little in price if needed. If I can get a much better setup for $2,000 I'm all ears.

I'm thinking:

- Receiver
- Sub
- Two rear speakers
- Two front speakers

I'm also open to towers or a center. Whatever will sound the best to be honest.

Does anyone have any recommendations, especially on great Black Friday deals?


Thanks!

+1 on the EMPTek system above. That's an unbelievable amount speaker for the money.

Here's what I reckon is a really great compact 5.1 option based on these monitors for the mains:


Speakers: Ascend Acoustics CBM-170SE + CMT-340SEc + HTM-200SE 5 Channel System: $698 (Black Friday/Thanksgiving Sale)
Sub: Rythmik Audio F15 Servo Sub (black matte): $974
Total: (with discounts in the shopping cart) $1623

In anticipation of your room size/layout, I suggest stepping up to a 7.1 channel AVR (hang on, there's a plan!). This factory refurbished Denon AVR-2113CI is great value at: $350. (Again, put jdsmoothie on the mat for his best price on a NIB.)

This brings you to a grand total of $1973.

For an option closer to $1500 or if you prefer a ported sub, substitute the Rythmik LV12R Rear ported Servo Sub ($589) to bring the grand total to $1608.

Then later on, when your budget permits (or you spot another sale) upgrade your mains with the big brother CMT-340SE Mini-tower Monitors. The CBM-170SE's would then be moved to surround duty and the HTM-200SE's to the rears.

Good luck with your deliberations and have fun! smile.gif
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how big of a room and how far away from tv do you sit.

i'm so laid back,i'm laid out
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Thanks again, guys!

Below is a picture of the room.

I sit about 8-12 feet from the TV. The room layout isn't the best... it is what it is.

I plan on using the system for music (rap/dance), movies, and shooter games.


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By the way, can any of the mentioned receivers be accessed wireless if I want to connect the music from my phone? I guess it's not a big deal since I can use a wire to connect it but wondering just in case. Also, do they have a 4K ULTRA HD PASS-THROUGH? I'm assuming this will become more important as 4K comes into the fold.

I just found this deal on a Pioneer Elite - 560W 7.1-Ch. Network-Ready 4K Ultra HD and 3D Pass-Through A/V Home Theater Receiver - down from $499 to $299.

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fwiw, can you or would you ever think about putting tv above fireplace this would give you way better options and speaker placement(imo the most important factor in ht system sound)

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Thanks again, guys!

Below is a picture of the room.

I sit about 8-12 feet from the TV. The room layout isn't the best... it is what it is.

I plan on using the system for music (rap/dance), movies, and shooter games.



I just don't see you getting a fairly large set of towers in that setup. The Klipsch and the EMPs are fairly large. You can't really even use wall mounts with that window to the right. You might need to do some rearranging of the room.

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I would consider putting the TV over the fireplace although it would sit pretty high. It's an option.

For the towers, I was thinking about putting one on each side of the fireplace.

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Putting a TV over a fireplace subjects it to smoke damage unless the front of the fireplace is totally sealed off by a tightly sealed glass enclosure.

You wlll find that the smoke deposits inside the TV will void the warranty.
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Putting a TV over a fireplace subjects it to smoke damage unless the front of the fireplace is totally sealed off by a tightly sealed glass enclosure.

You wlll find that the smoke deposits inside the TV will void the warranty.

Thanks! I'm not using the fireplace so shouldn't be an issue.

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Say I left my TV where it is... would the sound really not be that great? What would I get out of my speakers? 80% of potential?

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By the way, can any of the mentioned receivers be accessed wireless if I want to connect the music from my phone? I guess it's not a big deal since I can use a wire to connect it but wondering just in case. Also, do they have a 4K ULTRA HD PASS-THROUGH? I'm assuming this will become more important as 4K comes into the fold.

I just found this deal on a Pioneer Elite - 560W 7.1-Ch. Network-Ready 4K Ultra HD and 3D Pass-Through A/V Home Theater Receiver - down from $499 to $299.

The Denon AVR-2113 I linked above has built-in AirPlay, but at a glance does not appear to support WiFi. It supports 4K video (passthrough; upscaling; GUI overlay).

Here is the product sheet: http://usa.denon.com/DocumentMaster/US/AVR2113CI_0419.pdf.
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Say I left my TV where it is... would the sound really not be that great? What would I get out of my speakers? 80% of potential?

120% ! biggrin.gif

That would be a clever option and would actually be an improvement because you can take early sidewall reflections out of the picture. From looking at your pic, you might need to bring display forward a bit to ensure your not crowding the left main speaker beside the fire place. Here is the general layout you're looking for (rear speakers not shown, but they're placed at 150º ideally):


What are the overall dimensions of the room? If it's approaching square, this is a great option.
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Thanks! I'm not using the fireplace so shouldn't be an issue.

Or you could put the TV in front of the fireplace.
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Do you guys expect better deals to be available tomorrow for Cyber Monday? I'm thinking about holding until tomorrow to see what happens.

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Thanks again, guys!

Below is a picture of the room.

I sit about 8-12 feet from the TV. The room layout isn't the best... it is what it is.

I plan on using the system for music (rap/dance), movies, and shooter games.


I just noticed...

Whether you ultimately choose over/front of fireplace or the corner pozzie, I urge you to vamoose the coffee table from between the veiwers and all front speakers. A highly acoustically reflective surface like that will play havoc with what you hear from the speakers. Dialogue intelligibility is often reported to be the aspect that suffers the most.

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Thanks! I spoke with JD. I'm going to mess with my room layout to see if I can create more room in the corner. I may move the TV out of the corner a bit and slant it more towards the middle of the room. Then I can try to move the black couch on the other side of the table so it faced the windows.

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