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I'm going to start upgrading a home theater speaker system that I've had unchanged for about 20 years now that I've moved into a new house with a dedicated media room.  In respect to the front channel speakers, I currently have Infinity SM 112s so I am sure that whatever I get will be a big improvement.  I have a Sony STR-DG810 av receiver which I will upgrade at some point but not in the near future.  My listening is probably a 50/50 split between music and movies/tv.  My room is 12' x 23' with 8' ceiling.

 

One question I have is what purpose is served by speakers with a high max watt rating?  Most receivers that I look at do not exceed a 115 watts per channel output so what benefit do you get from speakers that max at 200 or more?  

 

My budget is probably not going to exceed $800 for the pair, so any recommendations for speakers that would fit in that price range would be appreciated.  I've been driving myself crazy looking at reviews for Polk, Klipsch, Boston Acoustics, etc.

 

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One question I have is what purpose is served by speakers with a high max watt rating?  Most receivers that I look at do not exceed a 115 watts per channel output so what benefit do you get from speakers that max at 200 or more?  
1) It looks better on the spec sheet.
2) Some amps do put out 200w or more.
2a) In which case it means it gets louder (relative to speakers with the same sensitivity but less max RMS)
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Assuming I stick with a receiver that doesn't exceed 115 watts per channel, what speaker specs should I be focused on?  When you look at speakers and the frequency response and sensitivity ratings are all in the same ballpark, what differentiates one from another?


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Assuming I stick with a receiver that doesn't exceed 115 watts per channel, what speaker specs should I be focused on?  When you look at speakers and the frequency response and sensitivity ratings are all in the same ballpark, what differentiates one from another?

I do not put a whole lot of weight in manufacturer specs - however, higher sensitivity helps for
larger type rooms - and for those who are extreme head-bangers - your receiver can handle a
lot of speakers, I would avoid 4 ohm speakers with your present receiver.

As far as speakers with similar specs >>>
Because some have better cabinets and bracing - and some better drivers - and some have a
better crossover network. Sound quality is the biggest test.

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So I just got a pair of Klipsch RF-82 ii's from Crutchfield for $840 after tax.  They had one as an open box item but I got both for the open box price, probably because I replaced the water service line at the salesman's house last summer.  Hopefully I will be satisfied!


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Assuming I stick with a receiver that doesn't exceed 115 watts per channel,
When discussing volume, I'd look at speaker sensitivity.
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what speaker specs should I be focused on?  When you look at speakers and the frequency response and sensitivity ratings are all in the same ballpark, what differentiates one from another?
The FR ususally isn't as same ballpark as the octave-rounded single-line FR graph put out by the manufacturer implies.

I'd look first at off-axis performance (and to understand the rounding done on the actual graph). That's been most critical. Then spectral decay (and perhaps resonance) for any "gotcha's". The waterfall plot is your friend.

Impedance curve can be worth taking a peek at. The only speakers I've had that didn't like AVRs had very steep curves; and I'm presuming a causal relationship.
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So I just got a pair of Klipsch RF-82 ii's from Crutchfield for $840 after tax.  Hopefully I will be satisfied!

There is a chance that you will be - they do have some fans.

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Got my RF-82 ii's hooked up tonight.  Listened to Genesis's Home By The Sea and Yes's Close To The Edge, both in 5.1 remaster format - it's like the speakers are making sweet love to my ears!


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