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post #31 of 57 Old 01-02-2014, 12:48 PM
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When a speaker does go, it's not like it usually is un-repairable. Depending on the construction (and assuming kept in a climate controlled environment), you could lose the caps (they can be replaced), you could have a problem with the surround or spider (also replaceable). If you actually have a voice-coil or cone go bad, that could be a worry; but I don't think they have anything resembling a "shelf-life" that would matter in human years (again: under controlled conditions). I've done listening to speakers up to about 30 years old.
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This thread makes me feel better about my 20 year old Definitive Technology ProCinema 800 system. Been thinking about upgrading my Sony STR D1000 receiver to the likes of the Denon AVR E400 or AVR X2000 and maybe adding 2 more Satellite's for a 7.1 setup ... rolleyes.gif
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Thank you, wronganswer.
His name is apt, the answer was wrong. rolleyes.gif
The part of the driver that connects the leading edge of the cone to the frame at the front of the driver is in fact called the surround. Another part, the spider, connects the rear of the cone to the rear of the frame near the magnet structure. The spider and surround in combination make up the suspension. wink.gif

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His name is apt, the answer was wrong. rolleyes.gif

The part of the driver that connects the leading edge of the cone to the frame at the front of the driver is in fact called the surround. Another part, the spider, connects the rear of the cone to the rear of the frame near the magnet structure. The spider and surround in combination make up the suspension. wink.gif

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I used my Vandersteen 2Cs for over 25 years before I got tired of looking at them and got some Salks.
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41 year old Klipsch La Scala still going strong after a cap replacement less than a decade ago.

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His name is apt, the answer was wrong. rolleyes.gif
The part of the driver that connects the leading edge of the cone to the frame at the front of the driver is in fact called the surround. Another part, the spider, connects the rear of the cone to the rear of the frame near the magnet structure. The spider and surround in combination make up the suspension. wink.gif
Thanks for that clarification, Bill. And, I wondered what the spider was. Thanks for that. too.
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There are numerous internet sites for speaker repair/rebuild/parts.  One such company that I have dealt with is called Simply Speakers. They sell kits for numerous speaker brands and they have decent tutorials posted to YouTube on how to do various repairs from replacing surrounds to re-coning. I have pretty decent vintage speakers (Dahlquist DQ 20i's) that needed the woofers rebuilt. I am pleased with the services offered by this company along with their reasonable pricing. Hence, my speakers are over twenty years old and I expect that they'll remain quite satisfactory for a long time to come.

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I've had my Kg4s since 1985. I've replaced the tweeters with Crites, however the old ones are still good. I have spare woofers (originals), but haven't needed them.
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Is there any treatment like using special cleaning materials/ solutions you have used that make your speakers lasted that long?

Also, I am wondering which surround materials could last the longest?
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I don't use any type of cleaner. Cleaners can have chemicals that accelerate deterioration. Santoprene, which is a synthetic rubber or butyl rubber seem to be most durable for surrounds. I have a pair of Polks that I bought in 1987 that have butyl rubber surrounds that are still like new.
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Thanks, kbmitch. That means I don't need to spend unnecessarily. smile.gif

My speakers' (B&W 683s) baffles are not real wood but are laminated with veneer materials. I use ArmorAll to clean, is this safe?
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I guess I tie the LaScalas for longevity, at least in this thread so far. 1973 AR2ax. Bought them during the past year. They were performing well enough but I restored them with new caps, pots, surrounds and re-finish with the original oil style on the walnut veneer. smile.gif

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Not so long ago I sold a pair of 1974 Klipschorns that were working fine.
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Thanks, kbmitch. That means I don't need to spend unnecessarily. smile.gif

My speakers' (B&W 683s) baffles are not real wood but are laminated with veneer materials. I use ArmorAll to clean, is this safe?
If you use it, I would spray it on a cloth and not directly onto the baffles. Take care not to get any on the drivers. I am not sure what it would do to them in the long run.
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Thanks again. :-)
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Happy new year's eve.

I have good quality, PSB speakers, that were new in the Fall of '05, and have an opportunity to buy the same make/model as my center, unopened in the box, for a very low price. I'm thinking this would be a good move, nothing to lose, really. But then it made me wonder, how long do good speakers last, with a lot of use? I've used these speakers probably 19 days out of 20, several hours every day, for 8 years. My system sounds better now than it did when new, primarily due to the significant room treatment, but how would I know if the speakers themselves have degraded in sound quality over 8 years? Do speakers gradually fail, or is it more an all-at-once thing?

Thanks for any feedback.

Climate...a dry clean environment free from dirt, mold, and moisture is a good thing, vs storing them in an attic or unheated/air conditioned garage.

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Climate...a dry clean environment free from dirt, mold, and moisture is a good thing, vs storing them in an attic or unheated/air conditioned garage.

FYI - museums preserve their paintings around 75 degrees/50% humidity all the time so I imagine that would be the same for speakers.
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I've always been told the caps could go bad in 15-20 years. How does one tell from normal listening that a cap went bad? My speakers are about 13 years old now and so far I think they are going strong:)

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Older electrolytic caps had a tendency to dry put, but not usually in the relatively cool environment of a speaker. If in doubt, just replace them. Most speakers use plastic caps and these will last a very long time.
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My side speakers have foam surrounds, apparently they perish but still fine. Guess it depends if they are in direct sunlight (which they're not) and even when they perish getting them re-coned isn't that expensive, or you can DIY.

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Older than some. Not as old as others. I've owned new since 1992.

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I really don't know. Some speaker's need refoam after a few years. My 1989 b&w v201 showed zero signs of issues. Still played strongly. Woofer surround still look like new. Recently sold it for 50% of its original msrp.
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I really don't know. Some speaker's need refoam after a few decades. My 1989 b&w v201 showed zero signs of issues. Still played strongly. Woofer surround still look like new. Recently sold it for 50% of its original msrp.

Fixed that for you. wink.gif

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I really don't know. Some speaker's need refoam after a few years. My 1989 b&w v201 showed zero signs of issues. Still played strongly. Woofer surround still look like new. Recently sold it for 50% of its original msrp.
The foam in surrounds has improved a lot over the years giving better longevity.
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I have some EPI's that I bought as a teenager in I think 1981. A couple years back I replaced the foam surrounds for I think about $30. They still sound good. I have other speakers almost as old that still work fine.
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