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I friend of mine would like to improve his HT from his current TV speaker to a 5.1 Ch system. His budget is $2000. I put together a package that would allow him to upgrade in the future. The system is based around the Onkyo TX-NR 818 7.2.

List of components:
L&R Ch. Klipsch RF-42 II $300 ea.
Center Ch. Klipsch RC-42 II $250 ea.
Surrounds Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $126 pair
Subwoofer Klipsch SUB-12HG Synergy Series $299 ea.
Receiver Onkyo TX-NR818 7.2 $699

Total: $1974 (Under budget)

If any money is saved I told him to put it toward the next higher center speaker. What do you think of this system? Anything you would change, or would you go a different route?

His room is open around 14x18. 10ft ceilings. (estimation)
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I friend of mine would like to improve his HT from his current TV speaker to a 5.1 Ch system. His budget is $2000. I put together a package that would allow him to upgrade in the future. The system is based around the Onkyo TX-NR 818 7.2.

List of components:
L&R Ch. Klipsch RF-42 II $300 ea.
Center Ch. Klipsch RC-42 II $250 ea.
Surrounds Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $126 pair
Subwoofer Klipsch SUB-12HG Synergy Series $299 ea.
Receiver Onkyo TX-NR818 7.2 $699

Total: $1974 (Under budget)

If any money is saved I told him to put it toward the next higher center speaker. What do you think of this system? Anything you would change, or would you go a different route?

His room is open around 14x18. 10ft ceilings. (estimation)


Having just gone through a complete overhaul w/ a similar budget, my suggestion would be to wait until next year. I saved a good amount of cash on everything from the black friday specials. All online purchases btw - tv, avr, 5.1 spkrs

 

I also skipped over the Onkyo receivers after several hi-fi dealers kept mentioning the hdmi board problems. I went w/ a Marantz 5008 refurb from A4L. Also, given the 818 is a model old, are you actually able to find one?

 

In terms of speakers, have you looked at emptek? I chose their tower 5.1 setup as the reviews were good and consistent. Plus it's a small company and you skip the middleman, among other benefits.. My backup plan was the bic acoustech.

 

In the end, I would encourage you to look beyond the staple labels of klipsch, pioneer, and onkyo. Talk to some dealers (ie. AV Science) for some suggestions too. After all, they do this for a living while I'm just pretending. Good luck w/ helping your buddy.

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Thank you for the reply. I will have to look into some of the other brands that you mentioned.
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Having just gone through a complete overhaul w/ a similar budget, my suggestion would be to wait until next year. I saved a good amount of cash on everything from the black friday specials. All online purchases btw - tv, avr, 5.1 spkrs

I also skipped over the Onkyo receivers after several hi-fi dealers kept mentioning the hdmi board problems. I went w/ a Marantz 5008 refurb from A4L. Also, given the 818 is a model old, are you actually able to find one?

In terms of speakers, have you looked at emptek? I chose their tower 5.1 setup as the reviews were good and consistent. Plus it's a small company and you skip the middleman, among other benefits.. My backup plan was the bic acoustech.

In the end, I would encourage you to look beyond the staple labels of klipsch, pioneer, and onkyo. Talk to some dealers (ie. AV Science) for some suggestions too. After all, they do this for a living while I'm just pretending. Good luck w/ helping your buddy.

The buyer might not want refurbished equipment, and Black Friday is a loooooong time away...life is too short to wait!

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$500 - receiver
$500 - subwoofer
$1000 - 5 Identical bookshelf speakers.
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As far as I've heard, the HDMI issues with Onkyo have been resolved quite some time ago.
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if you want klipsch rf-42 id go for whole system http://www.ebay.com/itm/Klipsch-RF-42-II-Home-Theater-System-FREE-PL-200-/370531150895?pt=Speakers_Subwoofers&hash=item564560ac2f comes with a free pl-200 for ~1200 from an authorized dealer. this leaves you with $800 for a good receiver.

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Personally I'm not a fan of the Klipsch Horned tweeters but if he finds that he likes them then I would say they may be a good way to go. Other speakers I would consider would be EMPtek and HTD as they get a lot of love her in the forums. 

 

But I would definitely skip the Klipsch subwoofer and look at something like the SVS PB-1000 at $500.

 

I have had Onkyo, Denon, Marantz and Sony AVRs and IMO the Denon and Marantz are the best.  If the Onkyo HDMI issues truly are fixed then are good as well. 

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HSU RESEARCH Value 1 5.1 Package @ $1029.00 + add $ 269.00 for a second sub and have about $700.00 left for a receiver.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/value1pkg.html


You can find the Onkyo TX-NR818 for much less than $700.00

http://www.onkyousa.com/Products/model.php?m=TX-NR818&class=Receiver&source=prodClass


That would be a sweet system for the money. The only thing I would do different is change the centre speaker and get the same as the other 4.
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I friend of mine would like to improve his HT from his current TV speaker to a 5.1 Ch system. His budget is $2000. I put together a package that would allow him to upgrade in the future. The system is based around the Onkyo TX-NR 818 7.2.

List of components:
L&R Ch. Klipsch RF-42 II $300 ea.
Center Ch. Klipsch RC-42 II $250 ea.
Surrounds Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $126 pair
Subwoofer Klipsch SUB-12HG Synergy Series $299 ea.
Receiver Onkyo TX-NR818 7.2 $699

Total: $1974 (Under budget)

If any money is saved I told him to put it toward the next higher center speaker. What do you think of this system? Anything you would change, or would you go a different route?

His room is open around 14x18. 10ft ceilings. (estimation)

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I friend of mine would like to improve his HT from his current TV speaker to a 5.1 Ch system. His budget is $2000. I put together a package that would allow him to upgrade in the future. The system is based around the Onkyo TX-NR 818 7.2.

List of components:
L&R Ch. Klipsch RF-42 II $300 ea.
Center Ch. Klipsch RC-42 II $250 ea.
Surrounds Pioneer SP-BS22-LR $126 pair
Subwoofer Klipsch SUB-12HG Synergy Series $299 ea.
Receiver Onkyo TX-NR818 7.2 $699

Total: $1974 (Under budget)

If any money is saved I told him to put it toward the next higher center speaker. What do you think of this system? Anything you would change, or would you go a different route?

His room is open around 14x18. 10ft ceilings. (estimation)

At $699 I reckon you're overspending on the AVR for a $2000 system. For a well balanced system you should only be spending about 20 - 25% of the budget on the AVR and putting the balance towards a better performing sub (or two) &/or possibly rear speakers (if your friends room can accommodate them).

So for $2000, this is what I'd do:

TOTALS:
  • 5.1 system: $1620 + Denon shipping
  • 7.1 system: $1940 + Denon shipping
  • 5.2 system: $2130 + Denon shipping
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+1 ^^   I very much agree with the math and the way Giegar broke things down. Nice job. 

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Thank you for all of the replies. I will look into some of those other brands and maybe using a less expensive receiver so I can put more money into the speakers.

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Everything is going well. I have been doing lots of reading and research. He will not be able to make the purchase until March.

This setup was suggested to someone else in a similar situation on AVS. I find it is hard to stay on budget when the next step up is only a few hundred dollars more. I blame marketing departments, lol. I have spoken to AV Science and will contact him again closer to purchase time.


Receiver: Denon AVR-X1000 $450.00

http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-X1000-5-1-Channel-Networking-Receiver/dp/B00CALM2JY


Left/Right speaker: Definitive Technology ProMonitor 1000 $219.00 each

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B000V41XII/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389764395&sr=8-2&keywords=def+tech+pro+monitor+1000


Center speaker: Definitive Technology ProCenter 2000 $293.00

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProCenter-Compact-Speaker/dp/B000UW270Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1389764426&sr=8-2&keywords=def+tech+pro+center+1000


Surround Left/Right: Definitive Technology SR-8040BP $230.00 each

http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-SR-8040BP-BiPolar-Surround/dp/B00422L3GW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389764538&sr=8-1&keywords=SR-8040BP


Subwoofer: SVS PB12-NSD Outlet $599.00

http://www.svsound.com/specials/outlet-specials/pb12-nsd-outlet#.UtYgt2QQbt4


Killer home theater total: like $2240.00
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