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hello, this is my first time here, and i am ready to build my HT. i need some of youre knowledge interms of which speakers are best for me for mostly HT movies Blue-rays.99% movies, some daily tv shows direct tv, and no music at all. so far i have 2 choices in mind that i can get a good prices on used market which are ENERGY RC 70 AND ENERGY RC LCR, AND ALSO KLIPSCH RF82II AND KLIPSCH RC62II.

 

so far i listened to my friend his energy speakers which is sound great. but i never listen to klipcsh speakers, which i can read from here that klipsch speakers are much better for HT movies. please guide me which from the two of them i can get for my 1st HT set up 3.0 for now.

 

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Budget?

Room size?
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you need to listen to the Klipsch speakers, people tend to either hate them or love them because of the horn loaded tweeter. they can sound very forward and aggressive to some people.

I had the Energy CF-70's and i did not like them because they were to bright for my taste.

people can recommend choices for you but ultimately you have to pick what you like.

i have HTD Level Twos and really like them.
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Budget?

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my budget for 3 speakers are 1200. Im not really sure about my room size.its not that big though.

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you need to listen to the Klipsch speakers, people tend to either hate them or love them because of the horn loaded tweeter. they can sound very forward and aggressive to some people.

I had the Energy CF-70's and i did not like them because they were to bright for my taste.

people can recommend choices for you but ultimately you have to pick what you like.

i have HTD Level Twos and really like them.

thanks.yah thats what I heard too about my friends energy speakers they sound laid back and lacking much details during movies.i jever heard anythinh from klipsch speakers.maybe its a big mistake to purchase them just by reading comments? Im not sure how they sound on movies.
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Mark62 has some great advice. 

 

Speakers are by far the most subjective pieces of equipment in an HT setup and if you get something you don't like it has potential to make you miserable. And it makes little sense to spend a lot of money buying speakers only to find that you really don't like them and then have to get rid if them and spend more money on something you do like. Many people on these forums have made that mistake.

 

The best advice is to go and listen to as many different types of speakers as you can so you can find what you like. Personally I find Klipsch too bright and fatiguing so I can't listen to them very long, but many others find them to be excellent speakers. The only way to know if you like them is to listen to them.

 

It doesn't make a difference if you can get a great deal on speakers you don't like because in the end that's a bad deal. 

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I will throw a bone to HTD, they have a 30 day risk free guarantee, they even pay return shipping if you are not happy with them.

IMHO the HTD LEVEL THREE towers and center in the front with LEVEL TWO books in the back would be an awesome setup. these are true high end speakers at a mid fi price. $1200 plus shipping of $45.

http://www.htd.com/Products/level-three-speakers/Level-THREE-Tower-Speakers


I own the Level twos and they are great for me. for the price they are hard to beat, but there are other speakers like the Cambridge Audio S70 towers and S30 books, S50 center that people really like but i have heard them. they are at a very attractive price at accessories4less.

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/CAMBS70BLK/CAMBRIDGE-AUDIO-S70-5-3-way-Floorstanding-Speakers-Each-Black/1.html

they have all of them there
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Ate they also good for HT? That's the only concern.
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HTD= Home Theater Direct smile.gif
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I would rather rip my head off than listen to klipsch speakers but that is just me. also after owning Energy CF-70's I feel the same way about them.....
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Smooth and refined with good spacious sound - not your regular horn speaker. The Studio 5
series has a clear/clean transparent sound, with good detail, definition and depth.

You can upgrade the sub later.
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Smooth and refined with good spacious sound - not your regular horn speaker. The Studio 5
series has a clear/clean transparent sound, with good detail, definition and depth.

You can upgrade the sub later.
http://www.sounddistributors.com/buynow.asp?action=detail&prid=2008&crid=321&cat_name=JBL+Speakers

i never gave JBL much thought... those look good and your impressions even better but damn those are big bookshelves, the model you have! eek.gif too big for me as i dont have proper stands for them.
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thanks guys, ok i will try to contact them if i can demo them in my place, and i can return them if i dont like them. this is very hard for me to choose which speakers is good for HT its too damn lot of different speakers. :(

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Another option would be the SVS speakers. They have free shipping to your home, 45 day in home trial, and free shipping back to SVS if you decide to return them. Risk free in home trial. Pretty good deal. But I'm afraid it would go past your budget. 

 

I've also heard a lot of good things about Emptek for HT. And they are more affordable. 

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Another option would be the SVS speakers. They have free shipping to your home, 45 day in home trial, and free shipping back to SVS if you decide to return them. Risk free in home trial. Pretty good deal. But I'm afraid it would go past your budget. 

 

I've also heard a lot of good things about Emptek for HT. And they are more affordable. 

thanks. i look for emptek and they look and affordable too. is there any forums here about emptek speakers?

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i never gave JBL much thought... those look good and your impressions even better but damn those are big bookshelves, the model you have! eek.gif too big for me as i dont have proper stands for them.

OK then I will not tell you, that I consider the JBL on another level compared to HTD.smile.gif
And, HTD is still nice for the money.

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OK then I will not tell you, that I consider the JBL on another level compared to HTD.smile.gif
And, HTD is still nice for the money.
How do you think they compare to the Cambridge S30s that I see you frequently recommend?
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How do you think they compare to the Cambridge S30s that I see you frequently recommend?

This is my preference, and how it is with my nit-picking ears

The Cambridge S30 has more detail and definition in the midrange and treble over the HTD Level
Two and Three bookshelf speakers - and The Cambridge bass is more tight and controlled.

The JBL Studio 5 is in another league over the Cambridge speakers - more smooth, clean and
refined, with much better detail, definition and depth - with a big spacious soundstage, and with
good deep rich bass, that is tight and articulate. The JBL is also strong with good dynamics.

Also, I prefer JBL over Klipsch Reference - JBL Studio again, has better detail and definition, and
is more smooth and refined while still being dynamic.

This would be my preference for a $1200 budget - and it will seem strange to some people.smile.gif
however, if you can get a good deal on what you listed - then that may be best for you.
JBL Studio 530
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-530-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00622STI0/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144052&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=jbl+studio+530+bookshelf+520+center

JBL Studio 520
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-520CBK-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00622SUHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144129&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+520+center

JBL Studio 130 for surrounds
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-130-Bookshelf-Loudspeaker/dp/B00413OWO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144178&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+130

Then save for a sub

However, if you want towers
JBL Studio 570
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-570-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B0068HAAVS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144526&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+570

With the center linked above

Your call - you could be real happy with Energy, Klipsch, HTD or Cambridge.

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This is my preference, and how it is with my nit-picking ears

The Cambridge S30 has more detail and definition in the midrange and treble over the HTD Level
Two and Three bookshelf speakers - and The Cambridge bass is more tight and controlled.

The JBL Studio 5 is in another league over the Cambridge speakers - more smooth, clean and
refined, with much better detail, definition and depth - with a big spacious soundstage, and with
good deep rich bass, that is tight and articulate. The JBL is also strong with good dynamics.

Also, I prefer JBL over Klipsch Reference - JBL Studio again, has better detail and definition, and
is more smooth and refined while still being dynamic.

This would be my preference for a $1200 budget - and it will seem strange to some people.smile.gif
however, if you can get a good deal on what you listed - then that may be best for you.
JBL Studio 530
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-530-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00622STI0/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144052&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=jbl+studio+530+bookshelf+520+center

JBL Studio 520
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-520CBK-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00622SUHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144129&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+520+center

JBL Studio 130 for surrounds
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-130-Bookshelf-Loudspeaker/dp/B00413OWO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144178&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+130

Then save for a sub

However, if you want towers
JBL Studio 570
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-570-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B0068HAAVS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144526&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+570

With the center linked above

Your call - you could be real happy with Energy, Klipsch, HTD or Cambridge.
 
wow, these JBL looks interesting. looks not that good. but i bet it sounds good. amazon reviews are 5 stars. wow. i will include this on my list of choices! thanks. i bet JBL also sounds good on watching movies? thats very important to me!
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hello, this is my first time here, and i am ready to build my HT. i need some of youre knowledge interms of which speakers are best for me for mostly HT movies Blue-rays.99% movies, some daily tv shows direct tv, and no music at all. so far i have 2 choices in mind that i can get a good prices on used market which are ENERGY RC 70 AND ENERGY RC LCR, AND ALSO KLIPSCH RF82II AND KLIPSCH RC62II.

so far i listened to my friend his energy speakers which is sound great. but i never listen to klipcsh speakers, which i can read from here that klipsch speakers are much better for HT movies. please guide me which from the two of them i can get for my 1st HT set up 3.0 for now.

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wow, these JBL looks interesting. looks not that good. but i bet it sounds good. amazon reviews are 5 stars. wow. i will include this on my list of choices! thanks. i bet JBL also sounds good on watching movies? thats very important to me

Yes real good for Both, movies and music - and remember, a lot of movies have music

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This is my preference, and how it is with my nit-picking ears

The Cambridge S30 has more detail and definition in the midrange and treble over the HTD Level
Two and Three bookshelf speakers - and The Cambridge bass is more tight and controlled.

The JBL Studio 5 is in another league over the Cambridge speakers - more smooth, clean and
refined, with much better detail, definition and depth - with a big spacious soundstage, and with
good deep rich bass, that is tight and articulate. The JBL is also strong with good dynamics.

Also, I prefer JBL over Klipsch Reference - JBL Studio again, has better detail and definition, and
is more smooth and refined while still being dynamic.

This would be my preference for a $1200 budget - and it will seem strange to some people.smile.gif
however, if you can get a good deal on what you listed - then that may be best for you.
JBL Studio 530
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-530-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers/dp/B00622STI0/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144052&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=jbl+studio+530+bookshelf+520+center

JBL Studio 520
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-520CBK-Channel-Speaker/dp/B00622SUHK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144129&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+520+center

JBL Studio 130 for surrounds
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-130-Bookshelf-Loudspeaker/dp/B00413OWO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144178&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+130

Then save for a sub

However, if you want towers
JBL Studio 570
http://www.amazon.com/JBL-Studio-570-Floorstanding-Loudspeaker/dp/B0068HAAVS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389144526&sr=8-1&keywords=jbl+studio+570

With the center linked above

Your call - you could be real happy with Energy, Klipsch, HTD or Cambridge.

What he said!!!

The JBL Studio 530 will have you shaking your head in a couple of days. Dang! I really paid $369 for a pair of these delivered... Why didn't I buy at least 2 pairs and the center that day. What was I thinking? This is a really good speaker, you see that right out of the box. As you begin to clear the fog of your own prejudices and the listening habits your last speaker instilled,you find out not only did you think they were really good out of the box, you realize they are a lot better than you thought they were.

I spent a couple of quality hours with them today and listened to some early Steely Dan. Even as a long time Dan fan who has seen them live a couple of times during the late 90s, there is so much going on in those recordings. Lot of stuff I don't remember ever hearing despite having played that stuff to death back in the day. When those albums were everyday fare I was listening to big ole pair of ESS Hiel Air Motion towers driven by a Pioneer SX-1250. The tweeters might have been better on the ESSes. I have only vague decades old audio memory to go by. The JBLs are just a vastly better overall package. The bass is so tight an articulate on the JBL that you get far better integration. I really notice the kick drum has the heartbeat thing going on. The vibraphone or bells or whatever tinkly thing is playing is not disturbed in the least by the percussion, just counterpointed exactly as it should be.

The ESSes are or were a kind of legend in my own mind but. I kind of equate them with my lost youth. At that point in my life they were magical. If you sort of extrapolate the $369 back into 1978 dollars the JBL Studio 5 Series bookshelves cost something like $80 a pair. I don't really remember what the ESSes cost me back then. However, considering how the buying power of the dollar evaporated over time, the ESSes must have easily cost a couple grand in today's dollars, maybe more. I have no doubt that side by side I would prefer the JBL to the near mythic speaker I kicked myself a hundred times for ever letting get away.

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Hey ziegjl I've seen you talk up these JBLs on a couple of different threads and you've started to peak my interest so I have a question that I'm hoping you can answer (gtgray and anyone else feel free to chime in as well). I'm not a big horned tweeter fan but I willingly admit that its because the Klipsch horns really wear me out, quickly; they far too bright for my tastes. But I haven't heard the JBLs so I don't know how they compare. Can you tell me what the highs are like on the JBLs. Are they really bright or are they more tame but still detailed? 

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Hey ziegjl I've seen you talk up these JBLs on a couple of different threads and you've started to peak my interest so I have a question that I'm hoping you can answer (gtgray and anyone else feel free to chime in as well). I'm not a big horned tweeter fan but I willingly admit that its because the Klipsch horns really wear me out, quickly; they far too bright for my tastes. But I haven't heard the JBLs so I don't know how they compare. Can you tell me what the highs are like on the JBLs. Are they really bright or are they more tame but still detailed? 

They are smooth and can draw you into the stage - not a Klipsch for sure.

This is my subjective review here
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/loudspeakers/88816-jbl-studio-530-they-real-illusion.html#post1008673
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They are smooth and can draw you into the stage - not a Klipsch for sure.

This is my subjective review here
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/loudspeakers/88816-jbl-studio-530-they-real-illusion.html#post1008673

Thank you zieglj. :)

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