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Hey guys, I've been seriously considering the acoustimass 10 from Bose for $995. What are your guys thoughts? Is there better suggestions out there?

This is going to be in a dedicated home theatre room with a projector. The room is about 20x25.

Thanks!
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First off, good move stopping here and asking for advice!

Second, do NOT consider the Bose Acoustimass 10, nor any other small satellite speaker system... Your room is far to large for satellite speaker system with small speakers.

Assuming your room is 20x25 with 8ft ceilings that is 4000cu. ft. which is a on the edge of a medium to large room.

Is $1000 your absolute max for speakers?

What is the AV-Receiver you have?

Are you ok with using tower speakers?

Are you at least ok with Bookself speakers?
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As a previous owner of an AM-5 and then an AM-10 system, I happily listened to music and watched movies for many years thinking that I had an awesome system. For my needs at the time, it really was great. Then a few years ago I listened to another system and began to realize what I was missing in both build quality and in sound quality. I ended up buying a system that literally blew away the Bose systems that I had. Since that time, I have managed to expand and upgrade my system as the good deals presented themselves.

With my young family and pets, the Bose were great in that I could tuck away the cubes where they were in no danger of getting damaged by a rambunctious child or dog. If you have a similar situation, then maybe the Bose is for you. If you are not worried about it, then there are lots of options available for that price that are far better than the Bose.

Since my experience with brands other than Energy are limited, I can vouch only for an Energy Take Classic system that I have listened to. They are on sale right now at Future Shop for $410--down from $800. Not sure where you are, but you might want to check them out.

Others on this site are very experienced and have tons of good information and opinions about what your options are. I'll leave it to them to offer other systems that may work for you.

Have fun on your quest.
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Hey guys, I've been seriously considering the acoustimass 10 from Bose for $995. What are your guys thoughts?!
That it's $600 too much. wink.gif
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That it's $600 too much. wink.gif
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And a dedicated theater room needs a true speaker set-up. Small Satellites are great for crowded living rooms and all, but theater rooms need some real speakers

One thought I first had was 4x Infinty Primus P163's and a Infinity Primus Center PC351 with an SVS PB1000.

For slightly over $1k that system will blow the Bose set-up out of the water!
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Years and years ago I had a Bose cube system and it never lived up to the hype. Way back then I couldn't understand why my Bose system didn't sound great, after all their marketing sounded great, why didn't their speakers? 

 

Needless to say I was very happy when I bought a real set of speakers and subwoofer. I've been through many upgrades through the years since but the only setup I ever regret owning was the Bose. I would advise looking at other options.

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Here is why you don't want little cube speakers from Bose:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20110730065834/http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

 

The writer is a bit overwrought, and would be more persuasive if he were not writing as if frothing at the mouth, but look at the measurements that are from Sound and Vision.  Bose cube speakers really are dreadful, and you ought to buy just about anything else instead.


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Here is the kind of performance to be expected from Bose cube speakers:

 

  SATELLITES BASS MODULE
Frequency Response 280 Hz to 13.3k Hz at ±10.5 dB 46Hz to 202Hz at ±2.3 dB
Sensitivity (SPL at 1 meter)* 85.1 dB N/A
Impedance (minimum/nominal) 5.3/8 ohms N/A
Bass Limits (-3/-6 dB) 280/220 Hz 46/40 Hz

 

Those are measurements taken by Sound & Vision magazine of the Bose AM-15, a speaker system that retailed for $1299.99.  See my post above for a link to a discussion of this information.  You would be hard-pressed to find worse measurements for speakers at such a price, unless you selected some other Bose cube speakers.


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Hey guys, I've been seriously considering the acoustimass 10 from Bose for $995. What are your guys thoughts? Is there better suggestions out there?

This is going to be in a dedicated home theatre room with a projector. The room is about 20x25. Thanks!

I for sure will take the Focal Sib over Bose
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_091SBCUB3B/Focal-Sib-Cub3-Black.html

However, for your room size - you need to aim Bigger

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I think you scared off the OP.biggrin.gif

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I think you scared off the OP.biggrin.gif
That tends to happen in these threads.

If he had a 10x10 theater room sure the Bose might work but he is overpaying just for the name and isn't getting a quality theater sound. But in a 20x25 room a Bose system and any other satellite speaker set will fail on its face
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Hi,

My TV room size is approximately 20X13 with 10 to 11 height. right now i have JBL Cinema 500 speakers, which I am not liking after moving to this house. My receiver is Yamaha VX 673. I want to upgrade my speakers to nice sounding speakers. I use the speakers mainly for music and movies.

My room has a opening to kitchn on one side.

Before reading this thread I was thinking for bose acoustmass 10, but now i may want to rething about what to concider. Can you suggest me better options.. My budget may not cross 1K.

Please suggest me nice setup.. Thanks in advance.
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Maybe you should consider a 2 channel system for now and work on the center channel, subwoofer, and surrounds as time and money permits?

At around 1k you can a pretty decent set of speakers. Don't be afraid to go used.

Some suggestions off the top of my head:

Salk Song Birds (used)
NHT Absolute Towers (new)
Monitor Audio Silver RX 6 (new)
Definitive Technology 8040 (new) 8060 (used)
Wharfedale Diamond 10.7 (new)
Goldernear Triton Three Tower (new)

The Def Tec and Goldenear speakers might bean interesting choice for you. Their built in powered subwoofers will give you some decent bass extension for movies until you can add a dedicated subwoofer.

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Hi,

My TV room size is approximately 20X13 with 10 to 11 height. right now i have JBL Cinema 500 speakers, which I am not liking after moving to this house. My receiver is Yamaha VX 673. I want to upgrade my speakers to nice sounding speakers. I use the speakers mainly for music and movies.

My room has a opening to kitchn on one side.

Before reading this thread I was thinking for bose acoustmass 10, but now i may want to rething about what to concider. Can you suggest me better options.. My budget may not cross 1K.

Please suggest me nice setup.. Thanks in advance.

Consider looking at Internet direct to get the most out of your money. You may want to look at EMPtek and HTD, they both have decent prices. 

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For a 1000 dollars, you can get 5.0 of good quality bookshelf and a pretty good sub.
Def Tech SM450...2-300/pr
EMPtek E5Bi...225/pr
Cambridge Audio S30...200/pr
Depending on what kind of deal you can work, you might have enough left over to score a SVS PB1000 sub, often listed around 499.00

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For a 1000 dollars, you can get 5.0 of good quality bookshelf and a pretty good sub.
Def Tech SM450...2-300/pr
EMPtek E5Bi...225/pr
Cambridge Audio S30...200/pr
Depending on what kind of deal you can work, you might have enough left over to score a SVS PB1000 sub, often listed around 499.00
My thoughts in bold. Just add a Cambridge s50 center and you will be golden
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Thanks for all your suggestions. I will look into these options, and i will update you my proceedings..
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Accessoriesforless has the CA s30 for 179.99 and the s50 for 149.99 right now...if you score that deal (may have to act quickly), you can get two pair of s30 for 360, the center for 149.99 and the SVS sub just over1000 dollars...however, that does not take shipping fees into account! At the very least, get a pair of S30s, the s50 center and the SVS sub and you would have a pretty nice 3.1, and then fill in the surrounds with some old speakers you have until you can upgrade!

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I think you scared off the OP.biggrin.gif
That tends to happen in these threads.

If he had a 10x10 theater room sure the Bose might work but he is overpaying just for the name and isn't getting a quality theater sound. But in a 20x25 room a Bose system and any other satellite speaker set will fail on its face

 

Finding out that one was about to make a terrible mistake can be disconcerting.


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Accessoriesforless has the CA s30 for 179.99 and the s50 for 149.99 right now...if you score that deal (may have to act quickly), you can get two pair of s30 for 360, the center for 149.99 and the SVS sub just over1000 dollars...however, that does not take shipping fees into account! At the very least, get a pair of S30s, the s50 center and the SVS sub and you would have a pretty nice 3.1, and then fill in the surrounds with some old speakers you have until you can upgrade!

Shipping is free on the Cambridge Audio speakers from Accessories4less.

SVS ships free also.

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OP was going to spend $1k on the acoustimass.  Working with this price constraint:

 

Pioneer SP-BS22-LR  $129/pair shipped from amazon, so $258 for mains and surrounds.

Pioneer SP-C22 center channel $97 shipped amazon.

 

Thats $355 with $645 left for sub, unless OP needs AVR.

 

Sub:  Rythmik LV12R or HSU VTF2 for around $600 shipped.

 

If OP needs an AVR, I would recommend the SVS PB1000 for $499 shipped, totaling $854

 

Yamaha RXV-373 $199 shipped(last years version), or the RXV-375 for $250 shipped.

 

So this would be a couple of options on a complete 5.1 setup at or near $1k, that would utterly destroy the Bose system in every way, and actually sound damn good regardless of price.

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A 20x25 room is a big room to fill. Most folks jaws drop when they see what I have in a 15x16 room. Both Cambridge and Pioneer make affordable speakers that would fill that room nicely with an SVS or HSU sub. SVS is trying to break into the tower speaker market and their freshman line of speakers look nice on paper as well but will set you back $3k. Honestly, I would budget $3000 minimum for a room that size for a 7.x set.

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Thanks for your suggestions. I recalibrated my existing JBL speakers, now they are working lot better. I think before, i didnt calibrated well. So as of now, I can manage with existing speakers. as its 5.1, may be slowly i will buy a 2 speakers to make it 7.1. Once agani, thanks for your suggestions.
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So the OP isn't coming back? Big suprise, another Bose drive-by post...
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I'm strongly considering the CA s30's for my HT setup. I also found a set of Wharfedale Diamond 10.1's lightly used for a good price($250/pr). Would the wharfedales be worth the the extra money?

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I'm strongly considering the CA s30's for my HT setup. I also found a set of Wharfedale Diamond 10.1's lightly used for a good price($250/pr). Would the wharfedales be worth the the extra money?


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I think those Wharfedales are damn nice speakers.

The Wharfedales are out for me. The wife doesn't want any speakers on stands. I had a chance to audition the Monitor Audio BX1. Impressed with what I heard.

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Hi, I just bought the acoustimass 10 (i love the bose sound for movies ..) i m using them for a 16m² room

 

It incredible with my new Denon X4000

 

Btw the range setting of the speakers is : from 46 Hz to 13,300 Hz for satellites.

My advice, try the speaker in a shop, if you have a special price (like me) it s ok.

But at normal price, it s sure, you can choice a lot better. I'm not saying bose speakers are bad, but for the same price, you can have something better i think. ( and i m not a anti bose guy :p )

but for now, i m a very happy with them, the sound is a lot better than my old 5.1 system (wharfedale crystal pack) and better than most of the cinema that i tried.... nice medium, nice bass, good precision in the sound)

Maybe it's because the receiver AX4000 is increasing the quality lol.

 

 

personnal settings:

lfg to lfe : 120 Hz

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