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I'm curious but where to buy 40 ft speaker wire? It's for my bedroom. Would it be a good recommendation to buy online and if yes than where? And this would be 40 ft per speaker so that's two speakers.

Second, how to install banana plugs for speaker wires without cutting the wires with wire cutters since I don't have tools like that? And how many orders of banana plugs should buy and where is a good place to buy them?

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Online? Or in person? And could you answer the rest of my questions?
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So you need 80 feet of speaker wire. How did you cut/trim the speaker wire
You are using with your amp and speakers now???
You would need 4 banana plugs.

Buy the speaker wire at a local hardware store and ask them where
You can buy banana plugs locally.
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I didn't cut/trim the speaker wire. I remember in the past watching a video on YouTube how to install banana plugs and they cut parts of the wire and I never done so cuz I wasn't going to attempt it. So how do you install those plugs on the wire?
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When you get the speaker wire at the hardware store buy a $7 wire stripper
And a small screwdriver. If you buy the banana plugs locally you can ask someone
To show you how to attach the banana plugs to the speaker wire.
Or watch a YouTube video.

Generally you just strip the plastic off of the wire. Then twist the wire real tight
So you have no loose strands of wire. Insert the bare wire into
The banana plug and tighten it down
With the small screwdriver.. Then you are done.
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I'm curious but where to buy 40 ft speaker wire? It's for my bedroom. Would it be a good recommendation to buy online and if yes than where? And this would be 40 ft per speaker so that's two speakers.

Second, how to install banana plugs for speaker wires without cutting the wires with wire cutters since I don't have tools like that? And how many orders of banana plugs should buy and where is a good place to buy them?

And thank you! smile.gif

 

Monoprice and Parts Express are good places to buy wires.  You can also buy wire at hardware stores and electronics supply stores in your area.  You should be able to get wire for less than $1 per foot.  Before you buy anything, though, make sure you are buying a big enough gauge.  Here is a site with a chart:

 

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable

 

It is worth reading the whole page to know why you don't need to spend a lot on wire.

 

You can buy wire cutters and strippers quite cheaply at the above-mentioned places, so that will not increase your cost very much.  Now, if you do not want to cut or strip wires, and you want them with banana plugs (which are nice, but not essential) you should buy wires with banana plugs already attached, if you can find them long enough for your purposes (and of course, with plugs will cost more than without).

 

A company like Blue Jeans Cables will make custom lengths for you.  40 feet of their Beldon 5000UE 12 gauge wire with locking banana plugs at each end currently run $50.75 each.

 

You need to plug in the length for the "terminated" cables at:

 

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm

 

A local store might do the same for you, or they might not.  You would have to ask them.

 

 

Some questions for you now.  Do you really want such long speaker wires?  You could have the speakers about 80 feet apart with such wires; is your bedroom really that big?


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I've had great luck with just run of the mill lamp cord. I've never been a huge fan of banana plugs, if you can solder, you can tin the ends. I've seen some crimp on and solder on versions of plugs
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you dont need banana plugs, and to strip the wire use a sharp knife and be careful.


just twist the bare wire and insert.
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DON'T strip the wire with a sharp knife.
You're talking to a novice. I've been working with wires my whole life and it's a lot easier for a novice to get it right with strippers. With the differences in insulation it's a developed skill to not nick the wire with a knife.

This could be a good learning moment for the OP. Buy some strippers, they'll last decades and you won't shy away from a small project like this.

Banana plugs have their pros and cons. Bare wire to the terminal is still the least resistance for the connection. But do twist them so there are no flayed strands.

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Also with long lengths like that, cut them the same length. (Though it sounds like you're going to do that.) For example, don't use one wire of a short length of say, 5-10 feet and the other of 40 feet.
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also with a long run like that use at least 14awg
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Also with long lengths like that, cut them the same length. (Though it sounds like you're going to do that.) For example, don't use one wire of a short length of say, 5-10 feet and the other of 40 feet.

Why not?

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Resistance. Less power will get through the long run so the speaker output will be less.
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Resistance. Less power will get through the long run so the speaker output will be less.

By how much?

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By how much?

if he used 18awg it could be significant, even using 14awg i guesstimate a couple db. i know this by experience. so now i always cut the wire the same length. at 40' resistance does add up.
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By how much?

Got me. Never done it. But my guess would be at such dramatic differing lengths, quite a bit. Audio people always recommend using same lengths - whenever it's brought
up, of course.

If you have a few extra bucks, how about experimenting? (I'm on a strict budget so I'm out! rolleyes.gif )
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Actually at first I thought you were going to say something like the signal wouldn't arrive at the same time or something along those lines wink.gif I've used unequal lengths many times, it's not significant until you get into extremely long runs. Try this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/1203669/unequal-speaker-cables or this article http://www.audioholics.com/audio-video-cables/speaker-cable-length-differences-do-they-matter

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Well, I guess I stand mostly corrected.... frown.gif
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http://www.aperionaudio.com/blog/how-to-choose-speaker-wire

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I just read all of the replies and thank you!

Would this one work Belden 5000UE 12 AWG Speaker Cable, Terminated?
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I just read all of the replies and thank you!

Would this one work Belden 5000UE 12 AWG Speaker Cable, Terminated?

that is good cable. are you getting from blue jeans?
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Buy a set of wire strippers from Sears, Lowe's, Home Depot, Radio Shack, Wal-Mart, etc. Can't imagine not owning this tool myself.

100' of 14 AWG from monoprice.
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=102&cp_id=10239&cs_id=1023902&p_id=2791&seq=1&format=2

2 Pair Sewell Deadbolt banana plugs
http://sewelldirect.com/Sewell-Deadbolt-Banana-Plugs-2-Pair-.asp
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Bingo!

I use the Sewell deadbolt plugs and they are a piece of cake to install.

I bought something like this for $5 locally. A beginner can easily strip wires with it.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Eclipse-200-091-Wire-Stripper-Economy-Self-adjusting/25068878

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that is good cable. are you getting from blue jeans?

Yes. I would like those banana plugs so should the connectors first end and connector second end be locking bananas? Or if not than what end should be locking bananas?

BTW, no this is not 80 ft in one cable and no I'm splitting it 40 ft myself and no my bedroom is not that big so I guessed at 40 ft. Each speaker to the receiver has their own cable, right? Yes, that's right. So 40 ft speaker cable for left speaker and purchase another 40 ft for the right speaker. For example, if amazon sold it 40 ft let's say and add it to your cart and than update the quantity to 2 which means they will ship 2 40 ft cables. Follow me? I'm trying to say it so its easier to understand.
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Yes. I would like those banana plugs so should the connectors first end and connector second end be locking bananas? Or if not than what end should be locking bananas?

BTW, no this is not 80 ft in one cable and no I'm splitting it 40 ft myself and no my bedroom is not that big so I guessed at 40 ft. Each speaker to the receiver has their own cable, right? Yes, that's right. So 40 ft speaker cable for left speaker and purchase another 40 ft for the right speaker. For example, if amazon sold it 40 ft let's say and add it to your cart and than update the quantity to 2 which means they will ship 2 40 ft cables. Follow me? I'm trying to say it so its easier to understand.

you can buy 50' or 100' spools and yes just add 2 the your cart.
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you can buy 50' or 100' spools and yes just add 2 the your cart.

And I asked about the connector ends for the banana plugs? Also, I'm not cutting these myself, so could these be used as a single cable I hope? Also, could you please send me a link to these spools?
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Do you just have no desire to learn how to cut the cable and to install the banana plugs yourself?
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Would this one work Belden 5000UE 12 AWG Speaker Cable, Terminated?

Sure you can buy those cables. They cost $50 for one cable terminated on both ends with banana plugs. So you'd spend $100 plus shipping for two 40ft speaker cables.

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And I asked about the connector ends for the banana plugs? Also, I'm not cutting these myself, so could these be used as a single cable I hope? Also, could you please send me a link to these spools?

there are no connector ends for banana plugs you just strip the wire and connect the plugs.

i already posted links for you, i guess we could buy it all for you and do the work and send them to you.... wink.gif
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