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Very interesting. Never would have thought of that..but then again I know nothing about speaker design.
In a way they kinda work like the muffler in your car. Reducing the higher freq and allowing the intended freq to come out.

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Thanks for the clarification! I know the design is unique to danley, but is the concept one that been around a while or is it a danley original? I've just never seen anything like it. It's pretty awesome it works so well.
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Yes-that is a great combo. The SM96 would need to be turned sideways to get the 90 wide pattern.

In this case the SM96 and SM60F use the same crossover and drivers-so they "play well" with each other.

In the case of the Sm60/60/69 family they also play well together-but there are a few crossover values that change between the different models to account for the different impedance loading due to the different horns.

With all of our products the crossover is tuned to the specific cabinet/driver combination. No "off the shelf" crossovers hear at all! They are all rolled from scratch-some using some very unique "tricks" that I KNEW were errors when I first saw Toms design-but as he said "take them out and see what happens". So I did. And WOW he was right-even though the basic concept goes against everything I knew (at the time) about crossover design.
When you say sideways do you mean flat? That is what appealed to me. Would you suggest the SM96 or just 3 SM60f''s for a front stage. I have two SM60f's now I would have to decide on a center and the SM96 in the flat position would seem to be the obvioue choice for my front stage. If the SM60's work out, I have the wife convinced that the SH50's could be in the near future biggrin.gif
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Here is some video footage I finally put together last night.
It's pretty long, but some highlights are:

  • Carp getting his bass fix at 3:14 - about 4 and 1/2 minutes
  • SI 24" free air excursion testing at 10:30
  • ULF of sixteen 18" drivers showing prowess moving french doors in next room at 15:36
  • Popalock and Beast showing "energy" for the G2G on the 2.5 hour drive there at 5:30AM at 17:15 (it's too bad it was so dark - both guys were headbanging something fierce --- luckily we didn't crash!) biggrin.gif
  • Gorilla83 Chest Pound at 20:30
  • Example of G2G blind listening sessions for the next few minutes.
  • Craig John's place at 23:20
  • DMark1's Legacy overview at 24:30


I apologize for the camcorder autofocus clicking - it's a known issue on the Sony Bloggie that I need to replace because the average modern cell phone has a better picture now days.

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I still owe my write up, and will put it together sometime soon. My family is moving to a new house right now and I'm pretty tied up with all that entails.
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Great job on the video Archaea, thanks for posting. cool.gif
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Great job on the video Archaea, thanks for posting. cool.gif

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Just viewed the entire thing, thanks for putting that together.

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Good video. That 24 looks like its wobbling side to side during excursion. May be a camera trick though but it looks like it rocks bad on film.

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Prolly just a illusion of the camera - the driver looked very impressive in person and I didn't see it misbehave at all - even when taken to the point the surround was beginning to dimple. We all were drooling over it. Pictures and videos really don't do it justice.

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Great video!  The doors at popalock's place...my gosh! 

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Prolly just a illusion of the camera - the driver looked very impressive in person and I didn't see it misbehave at all - even when taken to the point the surround was beginning to dimple. We all were drooling over it. Pictures and videos really don't do it justice.

Ya it looks awesome! I figured it was a camera trick but was curious.

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Nice vid Jon!! I would have liked to have made some of that journey with you guys.
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When you say sideways do you mean flat? That is what appealed to me. Would you suggest the SM96 or just 3 SM60f''s for a front stage. I have two SM60f's now I would have to decide on a center and the SM96 in the flat position would seem to be the obvioue choice for my front stage. If the SM60's work out, I have the wife convinced that the SH50's could be in the near future biggrin.gif
The SH96 is 90° wide when it is wider than it is long. So I would assume that is what you mean by the "flat" side.

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That is a great video. It looked like a lot of fun.

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I saw these little guys at the Philadelphia auto show yesterday. QSC's. Sounded great. There was a kid DJ'n and had them hooked up to some kind of compact disc mixing table. I could not really hear what he was saying, but I think he said the speakers were property of the auto show, so I assumed he knew nothing about them. I noticed there were smaller QSC speakers around the Ford area.

They sounded great, had allot of kick and some nice top end. Reminded me of some DIY sentinels. They were paired with some portable subs.

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I saw these little guys at the Philadelphia auto show yesterday. QSC's. Sounded great. There was a kid DJ'n and had them hooked up to some kind of compact disc mixing table. I could not really hear what he was saying, but I think he said the speakers were property of the auto show, so I assumed he knew nothing about them. I noticed there were smaller QSC speakers around the Ford area.

They sounded great, had allot of kick and some nice top end. Reminded me of some DIY sentinels. They were paired with some portable subs.

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How was the auto show? About 20 miles outside of philly with 11'' snow plowed off the driveway and watching it rain now ...

What type of horn in there? I can't make it out in the picture
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I own four QSC K8s (and the associated mounting yoke), as my surrounds/rears.

With the mounting yoke, they can be aimed in any direction necessary. And I've mounted them on a Uni-Strut system, whereby I can move them individually, or as a group of two (sides or rears) as needed to align perfectly with whatever seating config I need.

Since my room is a non-dedicated space, my seating config has changed a time or two. Currently, it's somewhat locked in, but you never know.

It worked out well.

Typical of any decent pro two way, they're powerful.

I got the K8 due to the wide coverage pattern more suited the environment and listening distance. The entire K series are 1kw, active, DSP with every conceivable connectivity option (even built in mixer!).

iirc, they use Celestion drivers.

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Below, the 8" nominal LF driver;







Below the HF waveguide/horn;



And the phase plugs seen down behind screen in the CD throat;



The coverage of the horn is mated to the size of the LF driver, the aim was to assure there's no gross irregularities in directivity.


Before I mounted them, I used three up front, in LCR duty, ... they were surprisingly a wonderful performer. I've detailed my findings somewhere here at AVS.


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Very nice, Kevin!

I finally got a chance to watch the video, very cool. Thanks Jonathan! biggrin.gif
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@Archaea I'm not the greatest multitasker, but I've developed a technique for headbanging while driving (because I do it so often) that has served me well over the years. I just take my hands off the wheel and try to check the road every 2-4 seconds. My passengers safety is always my # 1 priority.

ha...

I'm driving next time.

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ha...

I'm driving next time.

It seems like mOst of DC drive using the popalock model. With 18" of snow today I would hate to be out and about.

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How was the auto show? About 20 miles outside of philly with 11'' snow plowed off the driveway and watching it rain now ...

What type of horn in there? I can't make it out in the picture
Autoshow was great. Lots of cool stuff out there this year. I love the 2015 Ford Mustang and new Aluminum F-150. Probably the most stunning car was the Aston Martin Vanquish what a machine, me and my son agreed we liked it better than the Lamborghini it was parked next to, that is saying something. However the Lambo was incredible, but I would never fit in it tongue.gif I loved the design of the new Stingray vette, but it was so uncomfortable, the cockpit is so small. Jag F type was quite a machine also, I like how some of the manufactures are bringing back the two door hatchback coupe. The Audi A7 and Q7 are a couple I really like also. A good day all in all time well spent with my kids smile.gif
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The SH50's have my attention! Great thread, thanks for taking the time guys!
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After reading this thread about 10x I'm very seriously considering getting the Danley's when I move and redo my system.
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SeaNile, I see you are in Chadds Ford ... I'm not too far from you (about 10 miles from KOP myself) ... I've got SH50s in the basement right now (in the processing of finishing the basement) ... I could be up for a demo in a few weeks ... just keep in mind the conditions of a construction zone with poured concrete walls
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It seems Danley is announcing some new products at infocomm this week as well, so keep your eyes peeled.

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SeaNile, I see you are in Chadds Ford ... I'm not too far from you (about 10 miles from KOP myself) ... I've got SH50s in the basement right now (in the processing of finishing the basement) ... I could be up for a demo in a few weeks ... just keep in mind the conditions of a construction zone with poured concrete walls
That is awesome! I didn't know anyone local had these. I will definitely take you up on the offer to listen to them. My main concern is that they excel when I watch concert DVD's. All I need is about 2 minutes of listening and I'm good.

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OOOO, they do incredible with concert DVD's in stereo or even multichannel format. You find yourself in Western NC, I'll sell you on Danley in less than two minutes.

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This could throw a wrench in things if they now are going to offer a true HT speaker.
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Dave, still won't be full range, but will be catered towards the HT crowd, little more extension down low than the 60f's you had for a bit, and a more refined FR that is more suited for HT versus pro sound venue type response. Should be incredible honestly.

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The center channel just arrived an hour ago ... only have 2 channels amplified right now though

these are the listening conditions at present ... would have been further along on the basement, but had to build a deck for the boss first



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