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das323's Avatar das323
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Hi
This is my first post. Thanks in advance for any ideas, suggestions and help you can provide.
I'm looking for a pair of small bookshelf speakers to pair with a topping tp20 amp. This will be for music listening only in a relatively small room.
I've read that the amp performs best with high sensitivity speakers, but I don't know for sure.
I'd prefer to keep cost below $300, and as far below that as possible ;-)
I've seem plenty of Polk Audio options for well under $200. The Pioneers by Andrew Jones (I think that's the name) sound great, but at 85db and 6 ohms I don't know if it's right for the amp.
Any help will much appreciated.
Thanks
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The class T amps seem to work best with full range drivers. Meaning a speaker with no crossover. But any speaker with a decent sensitivity will work fine.

one example...

http://www.musicdirect.com/p-41245-focal-chorus-705v-bookshelf-speakers-pr.aspx

cheaper...

http://www.htd.com/Products/level-two-speakers/Level-TWO-Bookshelf-Speakers

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/CAMBS30BLK/CAMBRIDGE-AUDIO-S30-4-2-way-Bookshelf-Speakers-Pair-Black/1.html#!specifications


I have these with the Topping TP22 and they work great...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E7H8GG2/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I'm using a Topping TP30 to power a set of our HVL-1's. Works quite well.

I would like to try one of the t-amps that has bluetooth connectivity.
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I'm using a Topping TP30 to power a set of our HVL-1's. Works quite well.

I would like to try one of the t-amps that has bluetooth connectivity.


Here is a link for those speakers.....

http://www.wavecrestaudio.com/products/hvl-1-two-way-loudspeaker-pair

also there is a 15% off coupon... and a review here...



http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/speaker-subwoofer-reviews/72159-wave-crest-audio-hvl-1-speaker-review.html

In celebration of this review, use the discount code "jman" and receive 15% off of your order.
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I'm using a Topping TP30 to power a set of our HVL-1's. Works quite well.

I would like to try one of the t-amps that has bluetooth connectivity.


What do you think about these little amps?

I like them biggrin.gif
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The class T amps seem to work best with full range drivers. Meaning a speaker with no crossover. But any speaker with a decent sensitivity will work fine.

I've never heard that before, and I've used t-amps with several different sets of speakers. Why are you suggesting that? confused.gif
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I've never heard that before, and I've used t-amps with several different sets of speakers. Why are you suggesting that? confused.gif


read it many times, I said SEEMS. sure they work well with a lot of speakers. I'm not going to try to find what I have already read and the reasons for it. so just discount what I said...wink.gif


google it... "t amp full range speakers"
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I've used T-amps with many bookshelf speakers. They work great.

And what exactly is a full range speaker? does it really go from 20hz - 20khz?
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Thanks for the helpful feedback.
Mark62, I've read good things (on amazon at least) about the miccas, but I'd crossed them off my list because of their relatively low sensitivity. Perhaps I should reconsider....
Anyone have any thoughts on these options?
1) Polk Audio Monitor30 Series II
2) Polk Audio New Monitor 35B
3) JBL Loft 30
4) Klipsch Synergy B20
5) Definitive Technology Studiomonitor 350

The Definitive Techs look great from what I've read, but they're also the priciest. The others can be had at big discounts online, not that price is the end all, be all....but I don't want to spend money unnecessarily.

Not sure if it will help, but my listening tastes favor clarity and crispness, if that makes any sense. I don't really like boomy, over boosted, heavy sounds. I rarely turn up the bass, for instance, but I will adjust treble sometimes.

Thanks again for the comments. I'd be interested to hear what you all think of the above listed speakers.
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5) Definitive Technology Studiomonitor 350

The Definitive Techs look great from what I've read, but they're also the priciest. The others can be had at big discounts online, not that price is the end all, be all....but I don't want to spend money unnecessarily.

I would go with the Definitive - look again, the price is good
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882325059

I would still put the HVL-1 on a short list
http://www.wavecrestaudio.com/products/hvl-1-two-way-loudspeaker-pair
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I've used T-amps with many bookshelf speakers. They work great.

And what exactly is a full range speaker? does it really go from 20hz - 20khz?

Of course they dont measure flat to 20hz. A full range speaker is speaker with one driver with no crossover...

I also said that they work good with all speakers as long as you don't overdrive the amp, they get ugly quick , I don't understand why I am getting flack over this....

The T amps are a completely different design than traditional amps, again I've read it several times that T amps don't like crossovers because of the supposed complex load. I read it and it doesn't necessarily make it right. Again I did not say the T amps sound bad with non full range speakers, I in fact said that they work fine.

Also full range speakers tend to be pretty efficient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full-range_speaker
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What do you think about these little amps?

I like them biggrin.gif
I use them in a desktop system.

As long as the speaker isn't low impedance and it doesn't have any wild impedance swings, and you don't need to get real loud...they should work fine, and a great solution for a small music system. I think I even saw what that had a subwoofer output.

I'd like to try one that has bluetooth connectivity, along with nice speakers instead of some of these phone docks that sound horrible.
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zieglj01 -- thanks for the definitive tech link. Definitely the best price I've seen, by a long shot. Still it's almost 2x the cost of the Polk monitor 30s I see on newegg. So what to do.... confused.gif
I really miss the old days when there were actual brick and mortar stereo stores where you could listen and compare...wink.gif I went BB today, as it's pretty much the only place around here, aside from the super high end shops, and it wasn't at all conducive to a listening test.
Anyway I digress.
Newegg has a lot of good deals, that's for sure. Truth be told, I have a gift card at amazon I'd love to put to use here. It's restricted to items sold and shipped by amazon, so unfortunately that rules out 3rd party sellers and a lot of the good speaker options. But, if anyone knows of good choices that meet my gift card criteria, I'd love to hear (so to speak) 'em.
Thanks again.
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zieglj01 -- thanks for the definitive tech link. Definitely the best price I've seen, by a long shot. Still it's almost 2x the cost of the Polk monitor 30s I see on newegg. So what to do.... confused.gif
The Definitive sound signature, is in a higher league over the Polk.

I will look at Amazon
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Newegg has a lot of good deals, that's for sure. Truth be told, I have a gift card at amazon I'd love to put to use here. It's restricted to items sold and shipped by amazon, so unfortunately that rules out 3rd party sellers and a lot of the good speaker options. But, if anyone knows of good choices that meet my gift card criteria, I'd love to hear (so to speak) 'em.
Thanks again.

Since you like a crisp sound and less bass - the Infinity Primus 153
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Primus-P153-Bookshelf-Satellite/dp/B004649W1Y/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1391313403&sr=8-5&keywords=infinity+primus
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It also really depends how loud you like to play your music, even with a speaker with a 90dB sensitivity your not going to be able to play REALLY loud. As long as you get a speaker in the 87dB range you should be fine. You can't trust the manufacturer claims a lot of times anyway. Especially Klipsch.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if you listen at say 85dB you are just using a watt or two, and that leaves some headroom for dynamics...
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