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I'm interested in purchasing my first home theater system and was looking for some advice.  I have a  500 square foot room that I'm looking to put this system in.  The systems main use would be for television and movies. 

 

Is there a box 7.1 system around $1000 that anyone would recommend?  Or purchasing a receiver and slowly adding speakers as I can afford them?  Thanks for your input!

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I'm interested in purchasing my first home theater system and was looking for some advice.  I have a  500 square foot room that I'm looking to put this system in.  The systems main use would be for television and movies. 

Is there a box 7.1 system around $1000 that anyone would recommend?  Or purchasing a receiver and slowly adding speakers as I can afford them?  Thanks for your input!

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What receiver and speakers would you recommend? Thanks.

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Sorry I wasn't clear.  What about if I decided to do this slowly.  Which receiver and speakers would you start with?

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Is there a reason you want 7.1 as opposed to 5.1?


What I think is a wise way to do this all is to get a 3.1 system built upon what you can afford. Later add the rear speakers as money allows. This will get you started with music and movie playback. You may end up spending more than you estimate but get the goodness of a better investment in your gear.

AVR, Front left and right, center speaker and maybe a sub would be a good place to start.
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I was thinking 7.1 because of the size of the room, no other reason.  Thanks

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fwiw, an avs member has his ascend acoustics speaker system for salehttp://www.avsforum.com/t/1513345/ascend-acoustics-5-channel-setup-minnesota

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Buy those ascends posted above, try to see if hell go cheaper or ship at his advertised price.
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Any recommendations on a receiver that would go well with those speakers?  One guy had mentioned this and it looks great.

 

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVRE400/DENON-AVR-E400-7.1-4K-3D-Networking-Receiver-Airplay/1.html

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Inquired about those speakers and he is pretty set on his price.  Is this a good deal?  I have been looking at the pricing of them new and of course there is savings. 

 

Would that Denon receiver above be a good fit if I went ahead and purchased these speakers?  Thanks for your help.

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I was thinking 7.1 because of the size of the room, no other reason.  Thanks

My rear speakers go unused 90% of the time, unless I'm in a surround mode that matrix the back surround speakers. Only FOUR movies support anything beyond 7.1. I do run exclusively in DTS Neo:X. It sounds OK but not as good as discreet > 7.1. I'd concentrate on a STRONG 5.x system with a pair of subs -- speakers in the 200+ watt RMS power handling ( to handle an amplifier upgrade/addition ) and at least a pair of 12" subs. The Denon AVR E400 would be OK to get you started but don't expect more than 50 watts / channel with five speakers driven. A way to determine a receiver's REAL power output is to look at the CE label on the back of the unit, divide by the number of channels to be driven, then multiply by .6, which is the absolute best efficiency for Class AB. The E400 says 460 watts, which comes to about 40 watts x 7. LOL You really won't know whether it is good enough until you get it in your room. I'd recommend something with amplifier pre-out but Onkyo is the only brand with receivers affordable enough with outputs for amps. Denon starts at the X4000 for a full set.

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+1 Strong 5.1 with a good sub (or subs) over a 7.1 at the same budget.
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OK I'm sold on the 5.1 and I'm willing to build this thing slowly.  What receivers should I be looking? The receivers I have been looking at are 7.1 or 7.2 because it seems like they have a higher wattage output.  Any recommendations on a receiver?

 

Also whatever money I have left I will just start with two front tower speakers and a sub if they are arent built into the towers.  One suggestion was the Level TWO speakers which look great but I didn't see any reviews on them. 

 

Thanks for helping out guys I have no clue and am learning on the fly.

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Just found this deal on newegg.  These wouldn't be the ideal speakers because I think the towers are necessary but what are your guys thoughts?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3JX1AM9901

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OK I'm sold on the 5.1 and I'm willing to build this thing slowly.  What receivers should I be looking? The receivers I have been looking at are 7.1 or 7.2 because it seems like they have a higher wattage output.  Any recommendations on a receiver?

Receiver channels 5 or 7 do not guarantee wattage - Denon makes nice receivers, and they measure better than
most receivers in the 5 or 7 channel mode - from HT Labs measurements. Also, look at Yamaha.

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Just found this deal on newegg.  These wouldn't be the ideal speakers because I think the towers are necessary but what are your guys thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3JX1AM9901

IMO that is not a good deal, for one you do not need a $1200 receiver. Your room is a little big for those speakers.

You can get a good $300-$400 receiver, then use the $900 left over for speakers and a sub.. maybe think about going 3.1 and adding later.
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+1 on what Mark said....if you have a 8,000 dollars budget, a 1,200 dollar AVR might be in order. With this budget, I would spend no more than 300 dollars on a AVR or even less. I got the Yamaha V373 for 175.00 and it has enough power, room correction and 5.1 capable...everything I need.

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+1 $300-ish for a receiver is fine (there are some good deals on Denon/Onkyo/Marantz refurbs at http://www.accessories4less.com/). With ever changing AV standards, ports, etc. you'll have to replace the receiver the soonest - they are impossible to future-proof. On the other hand good speakers will last a very long time and have a greater effect on overall sound quality.

+1 also on avoiding satellite speakers. They're good if you have serious space or WAF limitations, but bookshelf speakers will give you a much, much better sound and bang-for-the-buck.
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Just found this deal on newegg.  These wouldn't be the ideal speakers because I think the towers are necessary but what are your guys thoughts?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3JX1AM9901

That is too much receiver for wimpy speakers. > that is way off balance.

I would go 5.1 for now - with at least bookshelf speakers.

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I would go with the Denon 1913, or the Yamaha 575

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Purchased the Level TWO tower and center speakers, just need to make a final decision on the receiver.

 

Those of you who suggested the refurbished route have you ever purchased from accessories4less? 

 

Someone on another thread kept pushing this model... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115377.  Is this better than the Yamaha RX-575 or the Denon1913?

 

Thanks for helping out, making this decision on a receiver is impossible!!!!

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Maybe worth checking out the Receivers forums. Beyond some feature you're specifically looking for I wouldn't stress too much re which receiver to get.

The 1913 is one of several popular, work-horse, good bang-for-the-buck receivers. I would probably lean towards the Denon just because it uses Audyssey for room correction (Onkyo also uses Audyssey). Yamaha and Pioneer both have their own proprietary room correction software.
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Purchased the Level TWO tower and center speakers, just need to make a final decision on the receiver.

Those of you who suggested the refurbished route have you ever purchased from accessories4less? 

Someone on another thread kept pushing this model... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115377.  Is this better than the Yamaha RX-575 or the Denon1913?

Thanks for helping out, making this decision on a receiver is impossible!!!!

Are you going to get a sub?
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Purchased the Level TWO tower and center speakers, just need to make a final decision on the receiver.
Those of you who suggested the refurbished route have you ever purchased from accessories4less?
Someone on another thread kept pushing this model... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115377.
Is this better than the Yamaha RX-575 or the Denon1913? 
AC4L is a good company - I favor the Yamaha 575

Yamaha or Denon is fine - I do not care much for the Audyssey or YPAO set up options - to each their own.

The Yamaha 773 is an older version - it is fine, if you desire to go that route

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I am going to get the sub that you had recommended as well... I forgot to mention that!

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