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post #1 of 29 Old 02-05-2014, 01:34 PM - Thread Starter
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(Full Disclosure: I am not sponsored by any of the vendors below, just a very enthusiastic fan/customer)

I am a HUGE Creative Sound Solutions (CSS) fan and when Bob at CSS put their demo line arrays up for sale last fall, I could not resist. I rented a Yukon XL and road tripped to the Canadian border with my wife to pick them up. I've been in love ever since! We picked up the matching rear towers as well, just needed a center channel...
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Open baffle sub towers have been replaced with a single Rythmik FV15HP in the corner to free up placement of the line arrays.
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My goal was to have an all-out performer capable of keeping up with the Lambda Plus towers and able to dig deep if needed (the self-powered 8's in the Lambda Plus arrays are a force to be reckoned with...added to the Rythmik, bass performance is fantastic). Although RAW closed its doors in 2009, Al agreed to build the center for me after I reached out to him on diyaudio, very nice guy! Sounds like he will start building other systems soon which is great, I'm already saving up for two more side channels to make my system 7.1.

Al at RAW recommended four of the new CSS LDW7 woofers, two Wavecor 120 mids and the new CSS RT2 ribbon. He posted progress pictures recently on diyaudio and I thought I'd share them here because I am so excited to hear the finished product alongside the rest of my RAW lineup. I'm picking it up from Al's in British Columbia in a few weeks and I will be sure to document the journey.

Rough layout:
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Top view of cabinet with all braces and slot ports:
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Assembled cabinet compared to PE .5cft cabinet V2 speaker:
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Full assembled down for 50-60 hrs of break in before crossover design:
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Matching Sapele Pommele ribbon veneer:
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Picked out my binding posts/jumpers/plate, black plate with nickel jumpers:



Bi-ampable so I can send the LDW7's the power they deserve biggrin.gif

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I like it!!!! great system now, all you need is a projector & a giant screen!
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Thanks! I am waiting for 4K stuff to come down before investing in a projector, looking forward to it.

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On axis to 40 degree off-axis response, uncorrected:



Veneer is going on as we speak, I am getting very excited biggrin.gif
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Veneer is on, headed to the cabinetry shop for sanding/finishing


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Here we see the Apex C II in its natural habitat receiving finishing touches:

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Totally lucked out by finding a Lovan M2 center channel stand on Craigslist, it will be perfect for the Apex C II:

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Al just teased me with finished pics:

Crossovers during installation
Tweeter crossover


Midwoofer crossover


Woofer crossover


Assembled making some NOISE





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is it me or shoddily built crossover ?

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Crossovers look fine to me. Parts secured well. Spacing and orientation looks fine and the solder joints look fine. Could they be made to look prettier, yes, but that really server no purpose. Especially when you normally can't see the crossovers.

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Brought the Apex C II home today, wow it is bigger, heavier and more awesome than I could have ever imagined. We watched The Lego Movie on it after some quick settings changes and wow it sounds good. This thing could be its own subwoofer for lower level listening! Aimed up it throws a huge image across the screen and fits very well with the towers. I could not be happier with how it turned out and I look forward to having it for years and years to come; this is one of those high end pieces that is passed down from generation to generation like a McInosh amp or nice watch. Currently biamping it with two bridged channels from a Rotel RB-976 so 150x2/300w RMS total. Now for pics!

With super light MDF magnet grill:


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As you can see, it is WAY too big for the Lovan stand, whoops! Back to the drawing board on that one...

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Awesome. Definitely deserves a better fate than sitting on the floor.
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Yep, will probably need to be a new TV stand that can fit it without lifting the TV well above eye level.

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Cool, i want to get it, yeah,Thanks! I am waiting for 4K stuff to come down before investing in a projector, looking forward to it.thank you [IMG]http://*******/9jszky[/IMG]
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That is a really nice center channel! One question though, how much does it cost?
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That is a really nice center channel! One question though, how much does it cost?
These are highly customizable so cost is kind of relative (for example, the Sapele Pommele veneer material for mine to match my arrays and rears was $250 alone). Per Al's response on HTS:

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Final cost for these is around $2000.00 with some of the upgrades I did for this speaker.

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Cool project! You must be single

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Haha, far from it. Fourth wedding anniversary next month with a wife who loves to see me happy with my hobbies (and she enjoys the good sound!) and our newborn son just turned 2 weeks old! Life is pretty good right now
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Wonderful! Gotta show this thread to my wife.


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Haha, it helps that my wife is a big metal head. Her Jeep is fully outfitted with high end gear too, Pioneer 80PRS, HAT speakers, Stereo Integrity sub, Zef amps.

We watched "We Bought a Zoo" last night, the lion, tiger and bear growls were incredible on the Apex C II. Like hit you in the chest huge, sounded like no center I have ever heard (obviously, since this is the biggest center I've ever seen in person ). This thing digs so low!!! Time to watch some more movies today

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I built a new platform for the Lovan stand to fit the larger footprint of the Apex C II:

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I built a new platform for the Lovan stand to fit the larger footprint of the Apex C II:

So what are the plans for that thing when the little one starts motoring around. That is prime realestate there for pulling themselves up on..lol..i have 3 boy under 3 by the way, love every second of it.

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Yeah, the long term plan is to get a different TV stand that will allow the TV to sit on top of the center. This floor stand buys us some time but we won't have long if he turns out like me, I started walking at 9 months!

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Yeah, the long term plan is to get a different TV stand that will allow the TV to sit on top of the center. This floor stand buys us some time but we won't have long if he turns out like me, I started walking at 9 months!
Yeah, my first son was rolling at 3 months, crawling at 4 1/2, pulling himself up at 5 1/2 and walking at 7 months..Crazy early for all of it. Be ready, they grow up fast.

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Yeah, my first son was rolling at 3 months, crawling at 4 1/2, pulling himself up at 5 1/2 and walking at 7 months..Crazy early for all of it. Be ready, they grow up fast.
7 months is quick! Sounds like you have the makings of a track star

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Was a few years ago you look into the back of this photo and you can see those arrays I built.

Sitting in the front of the photo was the original Apex C, which used 4- Extremis woofers with 2-Wr125S mids.Without a doubt this new center I just finished has better imaging more depth then the original .

Glad you have it that speaker now on a larger stand plate

Crossovers I use required parts in particle configurations with brands of capacitors as well as inductors.All parts less resistors have closed cell foam tape under all parts before the parts are secured with straps.Teflon silver wire with Silver Solder. Then boards have closed cell tape on the back before mounting into the cabinets.All to prevent harmonics from crossover parts and or crossover boards.

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I've had quite a few people ask about how to buy something like my center. Al has informed me that it is configurable as both a vertical tower as well as horizontal center like mine. Here's the kit info if you have the ability to build your own cabinets:


I will make kits for this if anyone is interested.
1-CSS RT ribbon tweeter
2-Wavecor mids
4_LDW7 Wavecor Woofers
Crossover parts 16G air core inductors,Mundorf Capacitors plus Mills resistor for the tweeter crossover
Teflon Silver 16Wire,Silver Solder,Screws Gaskets,Tie straps for crossover parts
Cabinet plans with crossover plans all info on a DVD.
$1145.00
Al can be contacted via username RAWAC on here (see above ).

After a couple weeks with this center, I am still enjoying every new viewing experience. This thing is crystal clear and plays LOUD with no audible distortion. I continue to be impressed every time I use it!

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